Drugstore Cowboy

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In almost 40 years of wood working I had never seen or heard rebate used for rabbet until I came to this forum. Frankly I had been writing it off as a typo.
After seeing BJ's note -- I walked out on the floor (I work in a library) and checked Websters Third International -- and The New Oxford American ---
SURE ENOUGH --- there it was rebate= variation of rabbet
But -- whichever way you say it -- is a rebate/rabbet not a two-sided notch cut along the edge or face of a board?

I ask --because the post where I pulled this quote - the poster was referring to mounting drawer support frames into dovetails cut into rebates in the sides.

To me a three-sided groove cut in a board has always been a dado (or just a groove).

No -- I am not being a smart mouth - it's a genuine question.
Since I didn't realize until today that a rabbet could be a rebate -
-- I have to wonder now if my definition is too narrow -
if a rabbet/rebate can also be a dado???

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bobj3

Hi Cowboy

This may help

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A dado (US and Canada), housing (UK) or trench (Europe) is a slot or trench cut into the surface of a piece of machinable material, usually wood.
When viewed in cross-section, a dado has three sides.
A dado is cut across, or perpendicular to, the grain and is thus differentiated from a groove which is cut with, or parallel to, the grain.

A dado may be through, meaning that it passes all the way through the surface and its ends are open, or stopped, meaning that one or both of the ends finish before the dado meets the edge of the surface.

Dados are often used to fix shelves to a bookcase carcase.
Combined with a rebate (rabbet) on an adjoining piece, they are used to make the rebate and dado joint, sometimes used in case goods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_router
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Drugstore Cowboy

All of that meshes exactly with what I have always called a dado.
And - yes -- I know about cutting a dado in the side and rabbet on the shelf to make a joint.

My question was prompted by the thread 'Rebated dovetails'
It sounded like he was referring to (what I would call) the dado on the side as a rebate (rabbet). Wasn't sure if that was just his own terminology - or if I was overlooking something.

To me the difference has always been - a rabbet goes along the edge of a board or panel - the cut made across the board was a dado.

NOT being critical or picky -- just wanting to be sure I hadn't missed something along the way.

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challagan

Always was told a rebate is the same as a rabbet. I was also told grooves are with the grain and dados are cross the grain. Thanks for the reminder... my new dishwasher came with a rebate !

Corey

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Drugstore Cowboy

All of that meshes exactly with what I have always called a dado.
And - yes -- I know about cutting a dado in the side and rabbet on the shelf to make a joint.

My question was prompted by the thread 'Rebated dovetails'
It sounded like he was referring to (what I would call) the dado on the side as a rebate (rabbet). Wasn't sure if that was just his own terminology - or if I was overlooking something.

To me the difference has always been - a rabbet goes along the edge of a board or panel - the cut made across the board was a dado.

NOT being critical or picky -- just wanting to be sure I hadn't missed something else along the way (like I did the rebate=rabbet thing).

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challagan

Always was told a rebate is the same as a rabbet. I was also told grooves are with the grain and dados are cross the grain. Thanks for the reminder... my new dishwasher came with a rebate !

Corey

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neoshed

Being English but a architect not a woodworker a rebate to me is whenever you cut a shoulder on a edge or if it went across the board. I'm still trying to figure out if its pronounced DAD - O or DAY DO. I have no idea where the term rabbet came from.

Joe Lyddon

Day dough