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DONALD · 10-31-2004, 02:57 PM

Why do they have to use such strong springs anyway?

Dewy · 10-31-2004, 03:29 PM

So that the cutter springs safely up when the lock is released.

kp91 · 01-29-2005, 12:47 PM

Used to have PC 693 without springs in the table. Was a pain to have to set back up for above table work. Now have 890 series, with the fixed base mounted to the table insert. The adjustments with the rack and worm, and the above the table height adjuster make it simple to make adjustments. Keep the plunge base set up for above the table work.

hcrab3 · 08-10-2005, 10:08 PM

I removed the springs from my M12V and the router would jerk while lowering it. So, I put the springs back in.

Side note: After cleaning the sawdust from the slots where the springs go, I was able to raise the router about 5/8 inch higher.

jerrymayfield · 01-07-2006, 10:58 AM

Even some of the router manufacturers are making it easier to remove or defeat the springs for table use This is or will be a moot point.
Regards

Jerry

Hickory · 03-26-2006, 07:58 PM

Freud is wrong...If you dont remove the springs you are fighting the spring pressure...wish somebody at freud would use a router table for awhile,before they suggest things.

**bobj3** · 12-01-2006, 11:36 AM

HI Hickory

Just as a side note, I have Freud 3 1/2 HP router in one of my router tables and the springs are still in it, But I do remove the bits from the top side of the table, and the black knob works just fine to adjust the bit from the under side of the top.

But that's just my 2 cents..

Bj

Here's a snapshot of the router table I have the Freud in.

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Hickory · 12-01-2006, 12:35 PM

BOBj3 i cannot tell which freud router you have. The new model FT2200 is better than the older model,for one reason. Freud realised the shaft was to short and added more length to the newer model.

I have both the old model and the new model. many times I could not get enough router bit height with the older model.. The new model works great.

Now about the springs.. I assume you must have the new model to be able to take bits out without lifting the router out of the table.

I would still find this more difficult with the springs in.. You are still fighting the spring pressure.
I take the router out of the table to change bits and i am able to Spin the black adjusting up to where i need it. Spinning is easier than turning a 1/2 turn at a time with the springs in.

When i need to raise the router up " alot in the table..I do something that may be consider dangerous, but i make sure there is no power going to the router.

I will grab the bit and put the router up, and reach under and spin the black knob up. This works very quickly with no springs.Once the micro knob is up..I make the final adjustment that is needed/

But whatever you get used to doing you will probably stick too.

One more thing i have found especially using large bits.. I depended on the micro knob to hold the router in place after i adjusted the height

Now i adjust it and use the plunge lock.. I had a large bit move slighly..probably should have been doing this before.

Hickory

**bobj3** · 12-01-2006, 02:35 PM

Hi Hickory

I have Freud FT2200E that I got off Amazon for $110.oo on sale.

http://www.amazon.com/Freud-FT2000E-...4?ie=UTF8&s=hi

But I still use the ROUTER COLLET EXTENSION for 1/4" and 1/2" shank bits from time to time.

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...er_collet.html
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I use a Off Set Wrench to get into the hole that's 4" in dia. in the router table base plate,that's Alum. pop out quick and easy.
The router base will lift out but it's more work that I don't want to do and the fence will just swing back about 4" so get into the hole quick and easy.

I just raise the bit up by 1" or so lock it and take it out bit and put a new one in.
When I use the BIG panel bits ( 3 5/8" in dia. ) the Wrench just slides under the bit and it's in and out in a snap/1/4 turn.

Bj

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Originally Posted by Hickory

BOBj3 i cannot tell which freud router you have. The new model FT2200 is better than the older model,for one reason. Freud realised the shaft was to short and added more length to the newer model.

I have both the old model and the new model. many times I could not get enough router bit height with the older model.. The new model works great.

Now about the springs.. I assume you must have the new model to be able to take bits out without lifting the router out of the table.

I would still find this more difficult with the springs in.. You are still fighting the spring pressure.
I take the router out of the table to change bits and i am able to Spin the black adjusting up to where i need it. Spinning is easier than turning a 1/2 turn at a time with the springs in.

When i need to raise the router up " alot in the table..I do something that may be consider dangerous, but i make sure there is no power going to the router.

I will grab the bit and put the router up, and reach under and spin the black knob up. This works very quickly with no springs.Once the micro knob is up..I make the final adjustment that is needed/

But whatever you get used to doing you will probably stick too.

One more thing i have found especially using large bits.. I depended on the micro knob to hold the router in place after i adjusted the height

Now i adjust it and use the plunge lock.. I had a large bit move slighly..probably should have been doing this before.

Hickory

Oakery · 02-11-2007, 10:31 PM

I just ordered a Hitachi M12V, and when it comes, the springs will probably come out.

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10-31-2004, 02:57 PM	#11
DONALD Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 84 View DONALD's Gallery	Report This Post! Why do they have to use such strong springs anyway?
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10-31-2004, 03:29 PM	#12
Dewy Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 120 View Dewy's Gallery	Report This Post! So that the cutter springs safely up when the lock is released. __________________ Dewy support team at Paltalk voice chat program
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01-29-2005, 12:47 PM	#13
kp91 Marine Engineer Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 919 View kp91's Gallery	Report This Post! Used to have PC 693 without springs in the table. Was a pain to have to set back up for above table work. Now have 890 series, with the fixed base mounted to the table insert. The adjustments with the rack and worm, and the above the table height adjuster make it simple to make adjustments. Keep the plunge base set up for above the table work. __________________ Doug 1 John 1:9
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08-10-2005, 10:08 PM	#14
hcrab3 Registered User New Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2 View hcrab3's Gallery	Report This Post! I removed the springs from my M12V and the router would jerk while lowering it. So, I put the springs back in. Side note: After cleaning the sawdust from the slots where the springs go, I was able to raise the router about 5/8 inch higher.
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01-07-2006, 10:58 AM	#15
jerrymayfield Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 465 View jerrymayfield's Gallery	Report This Post! Even some of the router manufacturers are making it easier to remove or defeat the springs for table use This is or will be a moot point. Regards Jerry
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03-26-2006, 07:58 PM	#16
Hickory Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 75 View Hickory's Gallery	Report This Post! Freud is wrong...If you dont remove the springs you are fighting the spring pressure...wish somebody at freud would use a router table for awhile,before they suggest things.
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12-01-2006, 11:36 AM	#17
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,095 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! HI Hickory Just as a side note, I have Freud 3 1/2 HP router in one of my router tables and the springs are still in it, But I do remove the bits from the top side of the table, and the black knob works just fine to adjust the bit from the under side of the top. But that's just my 2 cents.. Bj Here's a snapshot of the router table I have the Freud in. ▼ Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 12-01-2006 at 11:41 AM.
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12-01-2006, 12:35 PM	#18
Hickory Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 75 View Hickory's Gallery	Report This Post! BOBj3 i cannot tell which freud router you have. The new model FT2200 is better than the older model,for one reason. Freud realised the shaft was to short and added more length to the newer model. I have both the old model and the new model. many times I could not get enough router bit height with the older model.. The new model works great. Now about the springs.. I assume you must have the new model to be able to take bits out without lifting the router out of the table. I would still find this more difficult with the springs in.. You are still fighting the spring pressure. I take the router out of the table to change bits and i am able to Spin the black adjusting up to where i need it. Spinning is easier than turning a 1/2 turn at a time with the springs in. When i need to raise the router up " alot in the table..I do something that may be consider dangerous, but i make sure there is no power going to the router. I will grab the bit and put the router up, and reach under and spin the black knob up. This works very quickly with no springs.Once the micro knob is up..I make the final adjustment that is needed/ But whatever you get used to doing you will probably stick too. One more thing i have found especially using large bits.. I depended on the micro knob to hold the router in place after i adjusted the height Now i adjust it and use the plunge lock.. I had a large bit move slighly..probably should have been doing this before. Hickory Last edited by Hickory; 12-01-2006 at 12:38 PM.
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Oakery Registered User New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6 View Oakery's Gallery	Report This Post! I just ordered a Hitachi M12V, and when it comes, the springs will probably come out.
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