Thanks for the suggestions Nick. Vince and Nick, thanks for the reference links I think I've visited one recently trying to make some sense of the different frogs. Of course I knew Stick would have a recipe for this. Sounds like I need to get some wet sandpaper. Maybe they'll have some at the Woodworking show this weekend. Tim I've seen Paul's work on those planes and he always has some good info. That's where I saw his cure for the loose handle. I downloaded that video along with a few more. The granite is nice to have but I got it too soon after the shoulder replacement surgery. Carrying that rock to the basement shop was a bear but putting it up on the counter was , well something I wasn't really ready for. The report that came with it is attached just for giggles.