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One thing you need to remember when you start doing work for other people, it takes time from the projects you design and want to make. Your creativity might sit on your computer for many years before you get a chance to build it or may only take up space on the computer hard drive and never see the light of day. This can also extend over into your everyday life and you could find it hard to find the time to do house repairs, work on cars, mow the property and everything else.

Another thing to consider when you do work for other people, they may want you to use materials that are not suited to the project to save a few dollars and may not agree with using quality construction techniques to save time on a project. They offer the piece for sale and when someone asks who built it they tell them you built it but they don't tell them you tried to get them to use the right materials and to use better construction techniques so you could end up with a bad reputation for the quality you produce. This type of work you don't want because not only are you making bad product you will eat yourself alive because you know it is wrong.

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@MEBCWD you decline to do work like that, no point. Maybe lose the client? What you do is replace a lousy client or one who asks you to do poor work with a good one who understands that ou are protecting their interest. If you are doing the sort of marketing I described, you will gradually reach the good guys and gals. Mike is absolutely correct about the loser when you compromise or accept work that is lousy; it will be you.
@Gaffboat Oliver was right about how "making a good living" is very subjective. It does take some time to put this kind of marketing program in place, but there is also a learning curve so you don't necessarily want to explode on the scene. My doctor clients usually take 4-6 months to put our approach in place, sometimes longer. But that is about the interval it takes to train to a basic skill level.

For example, you'd want to take the classes and visit the experts mentioned in this string. When I started my business, I cut my expenses to the bone and spent a couple of years building my knowledge, reading and studying and working with just a few clients so even if my performance was spotty, it wouldn't put a hex on my reputation forever.

You can get help from Small Business Administration consultants, usually retired business people who want to contribute to younger peoples' success. We had some help this last year from one of these volunteers to get my daughter up to speed, and to update our brand and paper presentation.
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I take it that this is not the proper way to go about it.
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I take it that this is not the proper way to go about it.
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And to take it a step further, the moment you create your special design it is yours and yours alone.
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I believe you can reinforce ownership of the material by putting it in a self-addressed, registered envelope, sending it to yourself and leaving it sealed. You must also put a copyright mark on those pages, and on all copies, on the back of products, as well.

I have nearly a thousand pages of maerial and every page has a copyright mark, my name and the year created. And I call attention to the copyright with each client.
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I believe you can reinforce ownership of the material by putting it in a self-addressed, registered envelope, sending it to yourself and leaving it sealed. You must also put a copyright mark on those pages, and on all copies, on the back of products, as well.

I have nearly a thousand pages of maerial and every page has a copyright mark, my name and the year created. And I call attention to the copyright with each client.
I like the idea of putting a copyright mark on each of my canes and banks. I'm not going to be making 1,000s of them, or probably even 100s, but still, I really like the idea. Now to make a stamp.
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I like the idea of putting a copyright mark on each of my canes and banks. I'm not going to be making 1,000s of them, or probably even 100s, but still, I really like the idea. Now to make a stamp.
A hot stamp (wood burning) is a nice way to put it on a product. Rockler has this, but I'm sure you can find one elsewhere.

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A hot stamp (wood burning) is a nice way to put it on a product. Rockler has this, but I'm sure you can find one elsewhere.
Nah, I've got an article stuck away somewhere on how to make one. But, if I can't find the article, probably, I can still work one up. Always more fun to make your own stuff, and loads less costly.
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fascinating discussion....
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fascinating discussion....
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