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I am seriously considering buying an x-carve. There are so many options to add to it I really dont know what to add to the package. I am thinking about starting with the 750 mm table. Could someone guide me in the direction so can buy what I need and not spend on items that will just sit there. I want to carve on wood and other material if I can. Mainly woodworking. I would like to get into some 3d carving if I could with this machine. any advice would be appreciated.
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Advice --- don't get an X carve

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What's your budget, Chuy? How often do you plan to use the CNC? Are you going to be doing just signs and plaques or will you be wanting to do short production runs on engineering type pieces? The requirements, and cost, for these are different. You can do signs and plaques all day long on a more robust and rigid machine along with the engineered pieces in quantity. A smaller and lighter machine may not be as repeatable or accurate as the heavier and more rigid machines but that doesn't matter as much on signs and plaques.

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I agree.
Get a proper CNC router with a 2.2kW watercooled Variable speed spindle that will take 1/2" shank router bits. The X-carve use a std noisy 1/4" router.
A chinese made CNC machine is NOT very expensive.
I've got a Chinese made 6040 CNC and run Mach3.
I use a cheap CAM software called HEEKS CNC (US$10-20) with which I can do 3-D carvings with it.
CAM software can be very expensive and hard to learn. So I recommend the cheap MACH3's wizards add-ons to get 80% of your cutting or carving jobs done very quickly.

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What's your budget, Chuy? How often do you plan to use the CNC? Are you going to be doing just signs and plaques or will you be wanting to do short production runs on engineering type pieces? The requirements, and cost, for these are different. You can do signs and plaques all day long on a more robust and rigid machine along with the engineered pieces in quantity. A smaller and lighter machine may not be as repeatable or accurate as the heavier and more rigid machines but that doesn't matter as much on signs and plaques.

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The most I can do right now is about $1500 on the high end. That is why I was considering an X-Carve.

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I agree.
Get a proper CNC router with a 2.2kW watercooled Variable speed spindle that will take 1/2" shank router bits. The X-carve use a std noisy 1/4" router.
A chinese made CNC machine is NOT very expensive.
I've got a Chinese made 6040 CNC and run Mach3.
I use a cheap CAM software called HEEKS CNC (US$10-20) with which I can do 3-D carvings with it.
CAM software can be very expensive and hard to learn. So I recommend the cheap MACH3's wizards add-ons to get 80% of your cutting or carving jobs done very quickly.
Wow, this is the first time I have seen someone endorse a Chinese product. I will look at the reviews, thanks.

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I purchased the x-carve 1000. It was cheap and easy to put together. I did not buy any of the homing switches. I did buy the clamps. Don't buy the tool PKG. It was very basic, but for what I use it for it is great. It is not as heavy duty as some. So it depends on what you want to do with it. The 700 is smaller and I started to go with it and then measured it all and upped to the 1000. The 1000 will do a project without tiling at about 38 inches by 38 inches. So far I have not needed anything larger. The 700 would not have done some of the projects I have done.
I bought a smaller unit earlier and paid more for it than I did for the X-Carve and it was a mistake from the start as it was not large enough for what I needed unless I Tiled in X and Y directions. Set up for Tiling is a pain to me. If you make the slightest of errors when Tiling, you will pay a price.
Overall I would rate the X-Carve at a 4 out of 5.
There are Vids galore to help with the assembly and the support group is fantastic. If you email, they answer back within a very short time and if you call, you may have to wait for a tec, but not very long. They can tell you and explain to you what it is needed. If you have Team Viewer on your computer, they will show you right on your computer what you need to do, to make it work the way you want. Team Viewer is no cost. Software of your choice. I paid about 1500. The directions were good, and you have a little experience building this type of project, it will no problem. Time is the issue, about 9 hours for me to put it together. Be sure you have enough space to lay it all out on. This was key for me. Good luck and I hope this may be of some help to you.
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I purchased the x-carve 1000. It was cheap and easy to put together. I did not buy any of the homing switches. I did buy the clamps. Don't buy the tool PKG. It was very basic, but for what I use it for it is great. It is not as heavy duty as some. So it depends on what you want to do with it. The 700 is smaller and I started to go with it and then measured it all and upped to the 1000. The 1000 will do a project without tiling at about 38 inches by 38 inches. So far I have not needed anything larger. The 700 would not have done some of the projects I have done.
I bought a smaller unit earlier and paid more for it than I did for the X-Carve and it was a mistake from the start as it was not large enough for what I needed unless I Tiled in X and Y directions. Set up for Tiling is a pain to me. If you make the slightest of errors when Tiling, you will pay a price.
Overall I would rate the X-Carve at a 4 out of 5.
There are Vids galore to help with the assembly and the support group is fantastic. If you email, they answer back within a very short time and if you call, you may have to wait for a tec, but not very long. They can tell you and explain to you what it is needed. If you have Team Viewer on your computer, they will show you right on your computer what you need to do, to make it work the way you want. Team Viewer is no cost. Software of your choice. I paid about 1500. The directions were good, and you have a little experience building this type of project, it will no problem. Time is the issue, about 9 hours for me to put it together. Be sure you have enough space to lay it all out on. This was key for me. Good luck and I hope this may be of some help to you.
Thank you for the advice. I know there are much better routing machines out there but I am not going to fool myself and say that I am going to get one if I don't have the money.

Can you do 3D projects with this machine with the proper software or do you have to stay with simple 2D designs? I have Team Viewer and I have used it when needing help with the CorelDraw software when working on t-shirts for our screenprinting business. Have you seen limitations on the software? Do you recommend the additional software that they offer or something else?
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Wow, this is the first time I have seen someone endorse a Chinese product. I will look at the reviews, thanks.

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I wish to clarify why I endorse the Chinese CNC router. Price and Upgradability.
I've got one and I could tune it myself, add limit switches to it and get fairly good results without changing control boards. Many others however think that mechanical parts of Chinese CNC machines are OK but they prefer better electronics and upgraded with USA GECKO CNC control boards and drivers for better speed and performance. The Chinese mechanical parts and stepper-motors are reusable.
When you upgrade you will probably be happier. BUT you can learn or probably earn some income even with slower speed first. With the x-carve - you will be disappointed very soon.
MACH3 is American as are most CAM software. There is MACH4 but MACH3 has more users and free user support and the license permits commercial use. Mach4 commercial version is very expensive and the hobby version is OK but CRIPPLED.

I am actually still an IT consultant - computer reseller. I still custom build PCs every month for my customer who sells American made PlasmaCAM machines for metal working in Australia. They are much better than any Chinese machines and I won't recommend any Chinese Plasma Cutting machines.

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There is MACH4 but MACH3 has more users and free user support and the license permits commercial use. Mach4 commercial version is very expensive and the hobby version is OK but CRIPPLED.
Maybe I don't push it very hard but in the last 18 months I have found no limitations in Mach4 Hobby. Works great for me.

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