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How come this becomes like number 2?
If I deselect the inner vector it becomes # 3.
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If you have two vectors selected it will do a profile cut on each vector as shown in photo two. Selecting a single vector gives you the what you see in photo three. I'm not sure how an "ogee profile" fits when using a profile tool path. The image looks like you may have a 3D file, in which case you should be doing a roughing or finishing tool path. Another option to obtain an Ogee profile would be to set up a Moulding tool path in V Carve.
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Thanx oliver, it worked once before,but not what I wanted. You're right, try the roughing/finishing.
Strange thing. "Error,model exceeds material thickness" . where did I say model thickness?
Got it ! Multiple components made!

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Jeff,
I guess you are trying to use the trial version of Aspire. I hope you realize it will not let you save and cut files made in the trial version. You can save the design files and if you buy the program then you can use those files. If you want to use it for test cutting then you need to use the files they have available that work with the trial version.

When you started the design session you set the size and thickness of the material. When you created the model you set the size and thickness of the model. If the model is thicker than the material size then you will get that error. There are two ways to adjust the model thickness, you can go to the the Modeling tab, Modeling Tools and click on the Wrench Icon (Change properties of selected components) and make any changes you want to make, or you can go to the Material Setup under the Toolpath menu and change the model thickness. Then re run the roughing and finish toolpaths.

Learn the basics first so you are not lost when it comes to files like this. I recommend watching the tutorial videos from the begining so you learn the basics before you try the more advanced projects.

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Call me 'old school', but on a piece like that I would profile cut out the shape with a straight bit and then run the Ogee bit in the router table to profile the edge. I think it ends up being a lot quicker.

Of course, I now remember I have some smaller 'plunge ogee' bits that might be fun to experiment with....
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Is this what you are wanting to create? This is cut using a roughing pass, a finish pass and a profile pass.

What does your model look like? 3D view with toolpath preview closed
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Yes, i know about that. I am learning tho. Vectric videos are confusing to me. Most youtube are too fast .
I am VERY old school. That's the problem. That's exactly what I'm trying. I figured out the height issue. Model height and wood thickness..125 +.625= .75 inches.
2 issues. 1 along outer edge profile cut shows an edge. Like a u.
2. How do I make it (from bottom up) 1/4 in,start of contour up to top face? Like your piece has three layers bottom,center,face.
The base height is zero.

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Yes, i know about that. I am learning tho. Vectric videos are confusing to me. Most youtube are too fast .
I am VERY old school. That's the problem. That's exactly what I'm trying. I figured out the height issue. Model height and wood thickness..125 +.625= .75 inches.
2 issues. 1 along outer edge profile cut shows an edge. Like a u.
2. How do I make it (from bottom up) 1/4 in,start of contour up to top face? Like your piece has three layers bottom,center,face.
Item 1 i'm not sure what you are talking about the cut looking like a "U" a picture would help.

Item 2 decide how you want it to look and create the model to fit the measurements you want. My file was based on a material thickness of 0.375". I created the vector outline for the plaque. I decided to leave 0.03" for the finish pass of the model so 0.375 - 0.03 = 0.345. Then I wanted to make 3 equal layers, the base, the first lift and the second lift so I divided the 0.345 by 3 which gave me 0.115 for each layer. Then I created a profile with an arch having a radius of 0.115, and another arch above that one with a radius of 0.115 and a line down 0.230 to use for the 2 rail sweep. Then I offset my profile vector 0.230 to use for the second rail. Then I did my 2 rail sweep using the outline vector and the offset vector for the rails and used the profile for the cross section. I connected the profile to all the rail nodes so it would render correctly by using a right click on the cross section to get the drop down menu. I used the sweep between and fill center options to create the model. Went to Material Setup on the Toolpath Menu and set the model 0.03 down from the top. Then ran roughing, finish and cutout toolpaths. That is the preview I posted.

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The "u" shape is not cutting past the edge I guess(from what I just read).
OK, I got material thickness. I don't get equal layers tho.(I understand bottom, lower arc, upper arc) line down .230?
I made my outline vector, offset vector .25, I pasted a ogee profile, selected outer-inner vector-profile, apply.
It's crazy that a program is designed to do complicated stuff but not simple! Just thought it would be fun for kids to watch their nameplates get cut from start to finish. I'll keep plugging on.....work on sign without an edge.

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Item 1 i'm not sure what you are talking about the cut looking like a "U" a picture would help.

Item 2 decide how you want it to look and create the model to fit the measurements you want. My file was based on a material thickness of 0.375". I created the vector outline for the plaque. I decided to leave 0.03" for the finish pass of the model so 0.375 - 0.03 = 0.345. Then I wanted to make 3 equal layers, the base, the first lift and the second lift so I divided the 0.345 by 3 which gave me 0.115 for each layer. Then I created a profile with an arch having a radius of 0.115, and another arch above that one with a radius of 0.115 and a line down 0.230 to use for the 2 rail sweep. Then I offset my profile vector 0.230 to use for the second rail. Then I did my 2 rail sweep using the outline vector and the offset vector for the rails and used the profile for the cross section. I connected the profile to all the rail nodes so it would render correctly by using a right click on the cross section to get the drop down menu. I used the sweep between and fill center options to create the model. Went to Material Setup on the Toolpath Menu and set the model 0.03 down from the top. Then ran roughing, finish and cutout toolpaths. That is the preview I posted.
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