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In Version 10 the use of multiple large area clearance tools is only available in the VCarve toolpath not in the pocketing toolpath. I would be willing to bet they will get a lot of complaints about that, they already have one from me.

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The new features so far have not kicked my wallet into buy-mode like 9.0/9.5 did when it came out. No new toolpaths save a few new options in the existing ones that I can see. I'm proficient enough with the current drafting tools to not need the new drafting features. I'll wait for 10.5 or 11.0 now.

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This is the response I got to my email about the lack of multiple clearance tools in the Pocketing toolpath.

"Hello Michael

We had not considered it at this time, as the Pocket toolpath did not have the complexity of the VCarving process which greatly benefited from the additional options for automation in the toolpath calculations.

Thank you for your feedback and suggestion.

I will add this to our list of development features wishes.

I'm afraid I cannot comment on when/if particular features will become available in future versions of the software.

Many Thanks,

Best Regards
Charlotte"

So, for now, it will just go on the request list but I do foresee that they will get more people requesting the feature. It would really be nice on complicated Text on Text signs.

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The new features so far have not kicked my wallet into buy-mode like 9.0/9.5 did when it came out. No new toolpaths save a few new options in the existing ones that I can see. I'm proficient enough with the current drafting tools to not need the new drafting features. I'll wait for 10.5 or 11.0 now.

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They did add the Photo VCarve toolpath but it is not a general use toolpath so it is limited to specific projects.

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This is the response I got to my email about the lack of multiple clearance tools in the Pocketing toolpath.
Found this posted on Facebook
“My Version 10 Hack:

The VCarve toolpath allows the use of multiple tools to clear. But there is no corresponding ability in the pocket toolpath. If you want to Pocket using a large end mill to clear out most of the material, and then use a smaller end mill for the details, you can do this:

Use the VCarve toolpath. Specifiy a V bit with a .05 degree included angle. Add the end mills you want to use for the pocket toolpaths. Calculate the toolpaths and ignore the Vbit toolpath. The error on a 1" deep pocket is .0004".“

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“My Version 10 Hack:

The VCarve toolpath allows the use of multiple tools to clear. But there is no corresponding ability in the pocket toolpath. If you want to Pocket using a large end mill to clear out most of the material, and then use a smaller end mill for the details, you can do this:

Use the VCarve toolpath. Specifiy a V bit with a .05 degree included angle. Add the end mills you want to use for the pocket toolpaths. Calculate the toolpaths and ignore the Vbit toolpath. The error on a 1" deep pocket is .0004".“

Worth a try.

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I did get a little time lat last night to play around with V10 and I did try a 10-degree V-bit instead of the 0.05 degree he used then tried a tapered ball nose 3.8 degrees. That does get you really close and I don't think it will make much difference to worry about. His suggestion to using 0.05 degrees for the V-bit is a good one and is a great solution until or if they ever add the option to pocketing. I'll just add a 0.05-degree V-bit for this purpose and name it pocketing V-bit so it is easy to find.
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The new tool database layout will help me tremendously because I do files for other people and I can set up a machine profile for each customers machine that contains the bits they have and use with the proper feeds and speeds for their machine. It does allow you to have material selections also.


They have also added the ability to add groups to the toolpath list. I have not had a chance to look into this addition other than a quick test so this will be something I'll have to experiment with later.

Now you can rotate an item and still change the dimensions. This also carries over into the Mirroring tool.

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I am unfamiliar with this Vectric program. Looks like it is a 3d drawing program some here are using for their CNC routers?
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Vectric offers two main programs, Aspire, and V Carve Pro.

V Carve Pro is a 2D CAD/CAM program, with V Carving and limited 3D CAM functions.
Aspire has everything V Carve Pro has, plus 3D relief modeling tools. I wouldn't call it a 3D drawing program.
There are free demos of both you can download and try at Vectric.com
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If they are trying to improve the pocketing toolpath I've seem plenty of times when cutting tenons the bit wastes time cutting areas that it already removed. If time to cut matters I can usually spend a little time using profile toolpaths and some extra vectors to reduce the cut time down to 1/4 the time a pocket toolpath would have taken.

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