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Thanks again for all of your replies, and heading me in the right direction. It looks like the PL Premium is the best product for my application. A phone call to Loctite yielded the following info: the product would work well on pressure treated lumber if it was allowed to dry for about 6 mos before application. Evidently the wood is too wet for the best bond, and the bond might not be as strong. So I'm wondering if I could hurry the drying time in the pocket by using a heat gun? I really didn't want to wait that long before installing the plaque. I'm thinking that I'll try that, and if it doesn't work, I'll just have to wait. Comments? Thanks.
so when you pick up your wood make sure it isn't sopping wet..
when you cut it shouldn't even shoe wet...
if you picked up your PT from a big box you didn't get what you thought were getting...
sounds like Locktite is covering their butts..
decades of use of PL is talking here... VOE is hard to beat...
just go ahead and set your placque...

what are your reasons for selecting to use PT???

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All this negative hype about PT is leftover from the CCA 40 and CCA50 era. There is no ARSENIC in the current PT retail products (you can still get the old stuff for industrial; purposes...marine pilings etc. Even then it seems that the preference is still for creosote treatment).
https://sutherlands.com/resources/article.php?id=13
The active ingredients in the ACQ treated lumber are Copper and a Quaternary compound. If I had any concerns about the Quats, I'd stop using them as disinfectant-cleaners. For goodness sake, nobody is eating the PT lumber!
Please folks, stop criticizing PT lumber; we have this ACQ stuff because of greatly exaggerated concerns over the old CCA product being used in playground equipment.
I've been using a lot of both types in construction for four decades, as have a a lot of other members, for the most part we're still alive and kicking. Arsenic poisoning is nasty and I'm sure some of us would have been stricken before now. Keep in mind Arsenic, in small doses, used to be/may be prescribed as a medication.
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It's the uniformed propagating myth...
you'll never get around that...

there is a time and an application to fit the need...
so will any read this PDF...

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As for PT being unsuitable for a picnic table, how many of you put plastic in your microwave ovens, or eat fruit from the supermarket?
I do plus I get stuck in traffic and have to be in traffic with vehicles that wouldn't be allowed on the road in a lot of European countries.

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"...with vehicles that wouldn't be allowed on the road in a lot of European countries."
That works both ways. John.
There are Euro vehicles that you can't import into Canada. Works for me! LOL!!
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The latest obsession is getting rid of every bit of asbestos 'contaminated' building material in a house.
All those years of being exposed to street dust containing Asbestos fibres from brake linings apparently is irrelevant when they grind pavement, and relay the asphalt. When was the last time you saw the road crews wearing full Asbestos protection gear? (Never?)
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I would question the effectiveness of any adhesive on PT wood. My son-in-law's deck is painted and the paint is coming off. Would adhesive behave in the same manner?
New pressure treated wood really needs to be out in rhe weather a bit to dry out and wash away the excess before top coating There are stains that stick quite well to pressure treated wood and do not peel. Either the wood was too fresh or the product was not the best choice.The good stuff just washes away or wears off. You just clean and apply more. Exterior paint can peal off anything, not just pressure treated. I am sure you have seen houses with peeling paint.i do not disagree with your point. If psint won't stick, many adhesives will not, either.

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so when you pick up your wood make sure it isn't sopping wet..
when you cut it shouldn't even shoe wet...
if you picked up your PT from a big box you didn't get what you thought were getting...
sounds like Locktite is covering their butts..
decades of use of PL is talking here... VOE is hard to beat...
just go ahead and set your placque...

what are your reasons for selecting to use PT???
If PT is pressure treated, it's much cheaper than cedar which is arguably better. Our local discount building supply store (Menards) carries a product called CedarTone. It is #1 yellow pine which has been kiln dried and heat treated prior to treating. The yellow pine, it's cedar like color, and extra preservatives should make it better than conventional treated lumber which is usually #2 grade. I think that's going to be my choice. I wasn't overly concerned about waiting the suggested 6 mos for it to dry out completely. I'm trying not to overthink this! Check out the link for some info on it. Thanks for the replies.

https://www.menards.com/main/buildin...124685&ipos=10
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so go w/ redwood..
there are plenty of plan ''B''s...

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You and I will have to agree to disagree on this point Marty unless America hasn't found the Australian secret of making construction grade liquid nails.

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