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Okay, let's tallk about shop lighting.

While in my shop the last couple of times, I noticed that my florescent lights are starting to grow dimmer and the longer summer days are beginning to give way to the approaching fall season, meaning that I need to replace my bulbs soon.

I like to replace all 12 bulbs at once so that I don't have to fool with it constantly. I use the 48" 2 bulbs to the fixture and last time I replaced them with the 40W daylight bulbs which did a good job of lighting the shop up during the long hours of darkness, but did not last very long. These bulbs run over $4.50 each and I am wondering if they are really that much better than the regular ones.

I thought I would see what everyone else is using and maybe find a less expensive alternative that works equally as well. Any advice or opinions on this subject?
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Hi Bob

I have 14 light fixtures in the shop ( 2ea. ,8ft bulbs per fixture) and I'm always replacing them,,I have been thinking of putting back the new type, ( the pig tail type,florescent ) one bulb in a screw in fixture, they say they last longer and are cheaper to run..we have now have put many in the house and they do to seem to last longer...and they seem to be just as bright (40 to 100 watt per. bulb )

I would also like to see what others are doing

I have a meter on the shop,I guess I should jot some numbers down to see what's going on,I do it all the time when I'm doing a welding job to get the true cost of the job..



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Okay, let's tallk about shop lighting.

While in my shop the last couple of times, I noticed that my florescent lights are starting to grow dimmer and the longer summer days are beginning to give way to the approaching fall season, meaning that I need to replace my bulbs soon.

I like to replace all 12 bulbs at once so that I don't have to fool with it constantly. I use the 48" 2 bulbs to the fixture and last time I replaced them with the 40W daylight bulbs which did a good job of lighting the shop up during the long hours of darkness, but did not last very long. These bulbs run over $4.50 each and I am wondering if they are really that much better than the regular ones.

I thought I would see what everyone else is using and maybe find a less expensive alternative that works equally as well. Any advice or opinions on this subject?



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2 yrs ago, I replaced all of my florescent light fixtures. I went back to the screw in type. Only these bulbs are the newer version of florescent bulbs. So far, so good. I've had to add more fixtures but, I'm still using less bulbs and now getting the same amount of lighting. As Bj pointed out, they are cheaper to run. Cost wise, for me, I usually buy these in bulk to make it cheaper yet.

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When I put in my new lights as I progressed in the Garage Overal thread I went with T8 bulbs. I have three banks of lights spaced 4 feet apart runing across the 22 foot garage. I bought 8 foot lights and ran them end to end for a total of 16 feet leaving 3 feet on each wall.

My shop has no dark spots and I can easily see anything I am working on.

Cost me over $400 but it is the best 400 I have spent and the electrical bill is noticeably less as well.
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Don't know why it never dawned on me, but the old style screw fixtures with the new florescent bulbs sound like a great idea. I wonder if I can still get by with 6 fixtures or need to increase them. My shop is only 212 SF (12 1/2 X 17). Is there any kind of formula that applies to get proper light?
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Hey Ken

I see you are using them,,the ones I put in the house are used in the upside way and them seem to go out in a shorter time than if they are used in the right side up way (bulb on top of the base) , do you find that to be true also ??
I did ask the BOSS about them and she said they are about 4 times the price of the standard light bulb ,how big of a break to get in bulk ( big box buy of them ) ?

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2 yrs ago, I replaced all of my florescent light fixtures. I went back to the screw in type. Only these bulbs are the newer version of florescent bulbs. So far, so good. I've had to add more fixtures but, I'm still using less bulbs and now getting the same amount of lighting. As Bj pointed out, they are cheaper to run. Cost wise, for me, I usually buy these in bulk to make it cheaper yet.

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Hi all I have six 4' Fixtures and 3 of the pig tails all florescent. I like the 4 foot units they seem to provide an even wash of light through out the room and I use the spots for extra lighting in critical areas table saw,band saw and drill press I am very pleased with them.
I had the original florescent bulbs in the fixtures to start with, but as they burnt out I replaced them with the daylight bulbs, seems brighter.

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Hi Bj,

That is a good question. All of mine, including what's in the house are hanging bulb down. I've yet to have to replace any of them. They are higher in price compared to normal bulbs. I was constantly changing out those 4' bulbs at a cost similar to Bob's. HD is the cheapest around in my area. But, about every 3 months was changing bulbs. Since I've replaced with the pig tails, I haven't had to change one yet. Again, these are going on 2yrs. I think the savings is around 10 - 15 cents cheaper when in bulk. The real savings comes from how long they last and they do use less energy. I forgot to add, I think the true price savings depends on where you get them at. Again, here, the cheapest around me is, HD.

Bob, I've had 6 of the 4' lights, when I replaced them with the pig tails, I only added two additional fixtures to help spread the light around.

I'm a firm believer in the newer pig tail bulbs, they last so much longer and they do save energy.

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Most of my 4' shop lights I bought 6 years ago and have yet to replace one tube due to burn out. I am using both tube and pigtail now so I will see what happens.

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Don't know why it never dawned on me, but the old style screw fixtures with the new florescent bulbs sound like a great idea. I wonder if I can still get by with 6 fixtures or need to increase them. My shop is only 212 SF (12 1/2 X 17). Is there any kind of formula that applies to get proper light?
Yes there is Bob. I referenced a article called Shop Lighting and it has everything you need to know about lighting. When I get back to the Edmonton I will dig it up and email you the article.

Sorry but it will be a week before I get to it.
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