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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-03-2015, 09:26 AM Thread Starter
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Still working on my back door, the latest problem is the stop molding around the glass that was butchered by the stripper. I need to replace the molding - it's way too bad to try to Bondo - and I can't find this molding, or any other, stocked locally.

I found a YouTube video from This Old House How to Repair Door Glass | Video | This Old House and the stop in the video is exactly what I'm looking for so I'm sure it's not an odd ball - maybe out of date though (my house is almost 50 years old). There's a local cabinet shop that makes molding, they don't stock this but said they could make "anything", sight unseen - $87 for 20'.

Looking at the molding, I could cut the top bevel on the TS and put the relief on the bottom on the router table, but I can't figure out a way to get the bead on the corner. I have one of these radius planes Woodstock W1100 Slickplane - Hand Planes - Amazon.com which seems like my best option, at least for the top radius but not sure I could get at the bottom corner, just break that edge with a block plane and sandpaper maybe. Or maybe this is my excuse to buy the cornering tools that were discussed a little while ago Veritas® Cornering Tool Set - Lee Valley Tools - but now we're getting close to the cost of having the molding made (or doesn't the cost of new tools factor into the equation?). Or maybe just round off the top corner and leave the bottom corner square with just a break edge?

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Mr. Tom, I have always thought if I am "eyeing an interesting tool", need was one of the best excuses I could ever come-up with to buy it!
But in all honesty, this is only valid if the tool is something I will utilize repetitively in the future; otherwise it's just a wall-hanger.

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Mr. Tom, I have always thought if I am "eyeing an interesting tool", need was one of the best excuses I could ever come-up with to buy it!
But in all honesty, this is only valid if the tool is something I will utilize repetitively in the future; otherwise it's just a wall-hanger.

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True. Over the years, I have used the SlickPlane (mine is stamped "RadiusPlane" - also came with a set of blades to machine a small chamfer - so a different manufacturer) a lot, it comes in handy when you just need a nice edge break and don't want/need to break out the trimmer and put in a round-over bit. Buying the nice shiny new tool is probably satisfying on some level, but I'd probably just use one or the other down the road. I looked at the molding a little closer and am thinking that I could set the TS blade at 45° and cut a chamfer on the bottom corner of the bevel to get a uniform start and just round that over with a sanding block, leave the bottom corner square unless the Radius plane will fit on that small of a part.
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Tom; there's nothing sacred about glass stop shapes...there's a ton of variations out there. Doesn't anybody make new wood windows in your area?
Here's some simpler stops...
Wood Stops - Wooden Window
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Tom; there's nothing sacred about glass stop shapes...there's a ton of variations out there. Doesn't anybody make new wood windows in your area?
Here's some simpler stops...
Wood Stops - Wooden Window
So far I have just checked lumber yards and the one molding manufacturer that's fairly close to me. The one place I used to deal with closed up, but there are a couple more millwork companies that I could check although the one I've dealt with would probably only be interested in selling me a new door. The one yard has a molding like the Victorian stop except 7/8" wide, but I think that the top bevel is a good thing as it will help the water drain off. It's 95° outside right now, so it's probably a good time to quit and call a couple more places to see what I can find. Thanks for the input.
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I have the Simpson Door Mill 3 blocks away... (>Link to what I'm referring to<). I don't buy things when I can make them, but I often look at furniture, cabinet, and millwork catalogs to get ideas (especially on designs).

Also have quite a few circa 1900 joinery manuals that show how things are constructed, and designed. Even though I did that for a living, sometimes you just need fresh ideas.

I make my own. I just whip out what I need on a router table, either matching what was there or using a profile that I think will look nice or compliment the rest of the piece.

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rip a piece of door stop or casing molding to width...

Door Stop | Tilo Industries
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Another excellent suggestion from The Stick!
They may even have some damaged pieces that they'll sell for el cheapo (not the edge you want obviously).
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Thanks Stick. I like the looks of the DS 126, cutting it down to 3/4" wide will probably remove most of the flat so water won't lay. I'll have to see if anybody carries that.
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