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Why the squares are called "speed"? Excuse my ignorance, please.

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They are quick and easy to use? I probably use that Swanson 6" speed square more than all the rest of mine put together. They register against the side of a board quickly and accurately and the edge of the square lies flat on the piece unlike the tongue of a regular square which sits flat on the back edge but is lifted above on the front edge. This makes it easier when you have to carry a measurement from the side of a board around to the face.
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They are quick and easy to use? I probably use that Swanson 6" speed square more than all the rest of mine put together. They register against the side of a board quickly and accurately and the edge of the square lies flat on the piece unlike the tongue of a regular square which sits flat on the back edge but is lifted above on the front edge. This makes it easier when you have to carry a measurement from the side of a board around to the face.
I concur. In addition, most carpenters that I have been around keep the Swanson square in one of the pouches on their tool belt and it is much more accessible than their framing square thus speedier!
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Notice Cricket's picture is of a very limited space, not showing a workshop.
I intentionally did not choose a picture of a shop because there is such a wide range of the types of space used for woodworking by our members.

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I concur. In addition, most carpenters that I have been around keep the Swanson square in one of the pouches on their tool belt and it is much more accessible than their framing square thus speedier!
So does a combination square. And it's 12" (or longer).
And it slides allowing for accurate marking of lines parallel to the edge (up to the aforementioned 12").
I'm not knocking the speed square but it certainly isn't my first choice.
I think it was Chuck(?) that previously mentioned that he couldn't get his comb. sq. to hang securely in his tool belt loop. I don't understand that; maybe Chuck meant the hammer loop, rather than a smaller pouch loop?
The comb. sq. is so versatile that although I've never clocked it, I'll bet it's my most used layout tool after my tape.
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My workshop is VERY organized! It if wasn't I would be wasting (= money) looking for things. Over the years, I have developed several methods that work well for me. I have drawers for various items, such as a drawer for finishing supplies: sanding belts, various disk sizes in several grits, tack cloths and foam contours. Another drawer for glues and glue spreaders. Shelves of hand planes. Several roll-around tool boxes and dozens of 14.5" wide storage boxes that I use for fasteners; such as square drive, torx, Phillips & Straight; all kinds of lengths and finishes. My label-maker is my best friend on lots of this stuff - as it allows me to keep things neat.

I also have numerous tools hanging on the walls. Most are hanging in such a manner that even when sprayed with the air compressor - things only rattle and do not fall (getting dust off of walls). My bigger tools are on wheels - which makes cleaning under and around them very convenient.

YEP! A place for everything and (when not in use) everything in its place. My guys have all been with me for long times and they know that hunting for lost tools is something that is very frustrating, and therefore is to be avoided!

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So does a combination square. And it's 12" (or longer).
And it slides allowing for accurate marking of lines parallel to the edge (up to the aforementioned 12").
I'm not knocking the speed square but it certainly isn't my first choice.
I think it was Chuck(?) that previously mentioned that he couldn't get his comb. sq. to hang securely in his tool belt loop. I don't understand that; maybe Chuck meant the hammer loop, rather than a smaller pouch loop?
The comb. sq. is so versatile that although I've never clocked it, I'll bet it's my most used layout tool after my tape.
No doubt the combination square is quite versatile. I use mine (I have several of various sizes) in the shop frequently. While they can be very useful in the field, I feel that they won't take the same "beating" that a solid aluminum Swanson square will.
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So does a combination square. And it's 12" (or longer).
And it slides allowing for accurate marking of lines parallel to the edge (up to the aforementioned 12").
I'm not knocking the speed square but it certainly isn't my first choice.
I think it was Chuck(?) that previously mentioned that he couldn't get his comb. sq. to hang securely in his tool belt loop. I don't understand that; maybe Chuck meant the hammer loop, rather than a smaller pouch loop?
The comb. sq. is so versatile that although I've never clocked it, I'll bet it's my most used layout tool after my tape.
Correct. It was I. I try hard not to wear my belt these days but when I did I had trouble keeping it in. I used to keep it close because for some jobs nothing else will do. If I need a try square to put in the belt these days I usually go with the Swanson Accur-eight folding square.

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Hank; you're right of course in that Comb. squares are notoriously unable to withstand falls onto concrete. I'll be the first to admit to having replaced a lot over the years.
It's infuriating when the little wedge that clamps the blade snaps off, and as soon as it leaves your fingers you know you'll be soon making a trip to the lumberyard for a new one. Square that is, no way will you ever find a replacement part for the damn thing!
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