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I'm almost the opposite Doug . After having tools returned ruined , I buy everything to big to discourage people from borrowing them . My previous belt disc combo was only 20 pounds ,so after buying new belt and disc sanders that are all over 400 pounds ,it's really slowed down on the borrowing issues.
Hard on the pocket book though
It might be easier to do as Nancy Reagan once suggested. "Just say no". It would be easier with tools but regarding the topic she was on about it would be terrrribly frustrating.
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Dejure's signature- "The reason I have the tool you need is because I've never loaned it out".
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Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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It might be easier to do as Nancy Reagan once suggested. "Just say no". It would be easier with tools but regarding the topic she was on about it would be terrrribly frustrating.
Yes it's been covered here a few times . I hate like hell lending stuff out as it never comes back the same , and I have no idea why people can't respect another persons tools .
I had one employee almost loose it after I told him he couldn't borrow my sliding compound miter saw to cut his mouldings .
You would of thought I was the worst person in the world by the look on his face .
And you know for a fact it will never cut straight again .

He did manage to go to CT and buy a cheap one . He came over recently asking if I had a tile saw . I told him I didn't , although I have a $1000 Dewalt still in the box . Easier to lie lol

We have another employee here that borrows your stuff , then proceeds to re lend it out to all his friends . I couldn't figure out for the life of me why things were so badly destroyed , then I found out it changed hands five times. I asked him if I could get it back and had to go to a buddies to get it .
So I've definitely learned to tell people NO , GO BUY ONE OR IF THATS TO DIFFICULT , THEN RENT
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Yes it's been covered here a few times . I hate like hell lending stuff out as it never comes back the same , and I have no idea why people can't respect another persons tools .
I had one employee almost loose it after I told him he couldn't borrow my sliding compound miter saw to cut his mouldings .
You would of thought I was the worst person in the world by the look on his face .
And you know for a fact it will never cut straight again .

He did manage to go to CT and buy a cheap one . He came over recently asking if I had a tile saw . I told him I didn't , although I have a $1000 Dewalt still in the box . Easier to lie lol

We have another employee here that borrows your stuff , then proceeds to re lend it out to all his friends . I couldn't figure out for the life of me why things were so badly destroyed , then I found out it changed hands five times. I asked him if I could get it back and had to go to a buddies to get it .
So I've definitely learned to tell people NO , GO BUY ONE OR IF THATS TO DIFFICULT , THEN RENT
You're right. At times I've lied to good friends and said I don't own something they wanted to use. I just know they don't understand the real value of some tools, especially when they're not theirs. I've found that I suppress my pride in owning something by not mentioning the tool in conversation, knowing full well that it would be asked for in the future. I play dumb (that's not too hard for me) when others express their needs.
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If you say no enough times they will quit asking to borrow. I don't borrow or lend tools or money. Basically the same thing.

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Several. A 108" x 6" vertical belt sander. Wish I'd spent that money on a Performax or Woodmaster planer/sander. Next is a Porter Cable detail sander. Jumps around and digs holes in profiles.

On the other side of the argument, I've spent money to buy lesser quality tools to see if I liked what they can do such as the Mastercraft (think it is also Chicago Electric) oscillating tool I wasn't sure I needed. It's starting to give up the ghost after being run fairly hard for several years so I went out yesterday and bought a Fein to replace it.
Chuck, I think I may have the same PC detail sander that you have. Very rarely did I ever use it. I think it must have been their advertising claims that got the better of me!

On the other hand, I've had my Fein for about ten years now. That gets used for any number of things, it's a winner. You'll grow to love that tool very quickly.
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If you say no enough times they will quit asking to borrow. I don't borrow or lend tools or money. Basically the same thing.
I lend...
and go w/ them at regular rates....
the borrower gets to watch...
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And if he wants to use while you watch does the rate go up?

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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And if he wants to use while you watch does the rate go up?
yes, radically dramatically and having to listen to commentary is done for an additional absurd charge(s) also....

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Thanks I'll be using that in the near future

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