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I"m lookin for a little feedback on northern white cedar. Particularly successful finish schedules for exterior use...

I"d be interested in any experience, good or bad..

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wi8ll this help???
http://cedarfurnitureoutlet.biz/finish_options.htm

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Thanks Stick...

I ran across that last night and read up............leaning towards just leaving it alone......

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I've tried varathane and as Stick's article suggests it didn't hold up that well (on red cedar that is). I've had the best luck with opaque oil stains. The red cedar turns gray in sunlight. There have been and may still be a few split cedar shake roofs in the area that were 100 years old and still not leaking. Cedars that were killed in forest fires and then split last the longest of all. Same goes for fence posts made out of those trees. Farmers would split them 8 feet long and after 25 to 30 years drive them in another 12-18" and they would go for a total of 50 years or more. The fires case hardened them a bit and made them more weather resistant for some reason.

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The local lumber yard advised me not to use Cedar for any furniture with glued joinery. They said screws do ok, but cedar is not very good for furniture. I am planning on making a patio set and was hoping to use Cedar, but was told to use White Oak instead and the higher cost would be offset by the longer life of the much more expensive wood. Does anyone know if Walnut does well as outdoor furniture ???
On Cedar fences and decks I have used Cedar stain or just wood sealer and love the look. The sealer however must be re-applied regularly depending on your climate.

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yes on the Walnt... (black)...
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Cypress may be a good wood. If you get walnut that hasn't been steamed it cost a lot to. I have been paying $5.25 a board foot for steamed walnut but not anymore. I don't like it.

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Have you ever seen a farm fence with cedar post? After a few years, the heartwood will be standing, but the white wood will be rotted away and the post will be loose in the ground. In another few years, the fence will be holding the post up.

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Second growth red cedar (young trees) last from 6-8 years as fence posts. If you cook/heavily scorch them in a fire 8 years, maybe a little longer. Old growth red cedar (200-300 years plus) last much longer. If those same 200-300 year old trees were killed in a fire first then double as long. Why that is I don’t know but there is an an abundance of local experience to back that up.

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