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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-30-2017, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
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I borrowed my buddy's router for a couple years while I learned to wood work and completing a huge project - building a crazy four player cocktail cabinet arcade of my own custom design.

Anyway, a couple years later and there are a couple small projects that I want to do. I'm thinking of getting a circular saw and router of my own.
  • I'll use it in hand held/portable mode
  • I'll use it in table mode too - probably just take MDF, cut a hole in it and cut some mounting holes. I did that before and it worked out great.
  • I'll do a lot of tracing (working from patterns that I've created)
  • I don't see myself doing a lot of find edge work - mostly just cutting and tracing patterns.
  • I don't have a ton of space. I live in a condo and do the wood working on saw horses in the courtyard.
  • I've almost exclusively worked with MDF. The couple of projects I have in mind would probably use MDF as well.
  • I don't have a set budget - just looking for value and the features I need.

What other questions can I answer? Also any circular saw recommendations?
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Also, I did see this thread - Okay, I can't post the link to it yet (not enough posts), but...

It had some recommendations...
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The Bosch 1619EVS was top rated in the most recent router test of 3+ HP routers and suggested as the router to buy if you could only afford one. Members are pleased with this model and with the Hitachi M12V2. The old standard was the PC 7518 and mine cuts like a bulldozer going through butter. Having said that, unless you plan to build many projects with raised panels you could save some money by going with the Bosch 1617EVSPK which includes both a plunge and a fixed base to mount to the table. This model was top rated in the most recent test of the 2+ HP combo kits. Members are happy with this model, the Hitachi KM12VS, and the PC 895.
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Bosch 1617EVS-PK...
Bosch 1617EVSPK 12 Amp 2.25 HP Combination Plunge and Fixed-Base Router Kit

WHY I LIKE BOSCH...
2nd to none CS and support that's absolutely painless...
They respect us, the consumer...
they make tools that are real work horses...
they make tools that last a very long time... decades of hard heavy use..
they make tools that protect my bottom line...
I think/believe Bosch to be more an outstanding company that offer outstanding products...
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You can use a plunge router like you would a fixed base router but the opposite is not true so either get a plunge or a kit with both bases. I have the M12V2 and it is a very good router, especially for the table. However, all of Stick's comments are true. I've never dealt with Hitachi's CS dept so I have no idea what they are like. The PC 7518 was once the gold standard but the newer ones not so much and the CS dept may leave some to be desired according to the word we hear. Unless you plan on doing lots of raised panels then the 1617 is probably enough. I also have a Hitachi M12VC which is the same size and it is a joy to use.

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Bosch 1617EVS-PK...
Bosch 1617EVSPK 12 Amp 2.25 HP Combination Plunge and Fixed-Base Router Kit

WHY I LIKE BOSCH...
2nd to none CS and support that's absolutely painless...
They respect us, the consumer...
they make tools that are real work horses...
they make tools that last a very long time... decades of hard heavy use..
they make tools that protect my bottom line...
I think/believe Bosch to be more an outstanding company that offer outstanding products...
I purchased this combo kit for my son and he could not be happier with it. I have used it on several occasions when at his place and it's a really nice unit. I will purchase this kit for myself when one of my old routers fail.

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Lots of choices (>50!) and many reasons to choose one over another.
See selecting a router.
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1st and most important, look to the company...
evaluate their CS and will they step up to the plate should there be issues...
see if they have a planned obsolesce program in force...
what will the company and their product do for me...
and figure out if they will respect me in the morning...

no sense in buying something that can't be fixed a few years later...

next the product...
quality...
is it well made and easy/comfortable to use...
will it have a long productive life...
will it do/deliver more than I need it to....
is it a good value...
what are the tangible and possible intangible costs...
will it protect my bottom line...
will it go obsolete or become disposable in short order...

tools that don't cut the mustard, hold their own, suffer from down time, hurt production and the bottom line need to left on the store shelf...

Online reviews...
not too much...
read a few too many that my VOE said other wise...
I prefer to use and abuse different brands and evaluate them myself and pay attention at large job sites as to who has what and what, if any, issues they are having......

the testers should evaluate a tool and then put it in production mode for a few years and then do another evaluation...

pay attention to what tools people are looking for repair parts for that are pretty much unobtainable...
there are a lot of forums out there w/ many threads devoted to this one subject...
also what issues/failures people are having w/ their tools...
when many are having the same issues it's time to take notice...
ie.. Craftsman, Delta, (new) PC, Rockwell, and etc...
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TP; I have both the Bosch 1619EVS and the 1617EVS. I've gotten to the point in my life that I much prefer the lighter weight of the 1617. The 1619 is a heavy beast...not much fun if you're using it freehand on a vertical piece.
(I dado out pockets on railing posts for the horizontal rails, for example).
If you decide on getting the Bosch 1617 make it the EVSPK version...complete with both a fixed and plunge base
I didn't and have regretted not getting the plunge package deal; it's going to cost me a lot more now.
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Another vote for the Bosch 1617EVSPK.
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My standard answer: visit the local tool emporia and handle the routers on display. Nothing beats a hands-on review/experience and ergonomics are important. You will soon find out what fits your hands best. Then consider/ think about what Stick said in Post #7, above.
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