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Old book, new information to me about picture framing stock. Make frames for my wife's paintings and frustrated at the cost of oversized materials that I have to mill down to dimension. Bought "Making Picture Frames in Wood" by Manly Banister and discovered a way to use far less expensive materials.

Drawings below show how to mill, route a profile, then glue together material for very fancy frames. Thought I'd share this. The book is veryt old, copyright 1914, but the information was brand new to me. This will cut material cost by 50 %.
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It would be great if you could post a video of you making your first one!
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Looks like making crown molding, only on a smaller scale.

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Looks like making crown molding, only on a smaller scale.
A fairly typical painting requires about 10-12 feet of stock. The thing I like about this approach is that it is multi layered, so warping is likely to be zero as the stresses cancel each other out and the glue binds everything together. I can also use some good, clear pine for most frames. Most of my frames are finished mostly in dark shades, with a wipe on finish.

I generally sand with the little sanding blocks shown below, starting with about 120 and up to 220. Used to go higher, but it doesn't make much difference. I also have a set of angle blocks for flats and crevices. You use the new 3M, tranlucent sanding medium, which last a remarkably long time.

Don't care how careful I am, there's always a ding or small gap. So far the best stuff I've found for filling is from Amazon, Timber Mate Wood Filler, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This stuff stays put and sands and finishes very well.

The real secret of great frames, however is the Lyon-type (Grizzly brand) miter trimmer. I wasn't able to make a frame that worked until I got it. Pix 3.

Making picture frames is the most exacting thing I've done in woodworking so far.
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Tom my wife was into buying prints for a while and she wanted them framed properly and I found out the same as you that it was ridiculously expensive at $25 per foot for the moludings to make them. At the size of the prints with matting and glass it was going to cost about $600 each to get them done. While looking at the various molding profiles I realized that most of them could be broken down into very simplified parts, mostly beads and coves, so I went home and made them myself. I did find the horizontal router setup I have to be very handy in making them.

I hadn't thought about gluing sections together so that is a great idea. That sounds like a good book to have. I'll have to see if copies are still available.

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I love old books like that. Nowadays if you buy a book to build a canoe for example, that's t a whole book. You buy one of the old project books, like from the early 1900s, they may have 4 or 5 pages on making a canoe that is very close the one that takes an entire book. I've got one book that breaks down an article on making a sailboat into about 5 sections, with about 4-5 pages each. Then it goes on to other projects. Either people were smarter then, or more likely more used to working with their hands and figuring out how to do things, or people just don't want to figure out things on their own.

Which reminds me, haven't bought any of those old books in a long time, need to start looking for a few, very good reads, even if you don't make anything out of them. A different life time. Used book stores are a good place to start.

Thanks for the reminder Tom, and hoping to see some picture of at least one or two in the future.

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I have been using pallet material for smaller frames and projects for some time.
First I cut or rip out the bad bits then re join them to make up boards.
Most of the time I finger join my pieces back together some times at angles then rout them to form a moulding.
This way the bad bits are cut out then glued back together to get cheap very stable timber for small projects.
Thanks for the posting Tom now I will be more expermental in my shapes
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The book, "Making Picture Frames in Wood" comes up on Amazon, but only on the used market (a hardback copy is listed for over $2000). I thought that the title sounded familiar and dug a little, found my copy that I'd bought from Woodcraft in 2003 for $11.95 but they no longer list it on their web site. It looks as if the book was originally published in 1973, the paperback version I have was published by Sterling Publishing Co. in 1983.

Most of the frames he shows are a little elaborate for my taste, I mostly make built up frames using stock moldings - although that limits you to pine or poplar unless you make your own moldings. I'm drawing up a paneled maple headboard for my wife and will wind up having to make my own, but they're going to be basic shapes, combined to look interesting.
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@tomp913 Hi Tom, Yeah, they seem more elaborate than I like as well, but some really good suggestions. I particularly like the idea of drawing, then cutting out the profile of every bit you have so you can conmbine them to work out a shape. There certainly is a lot to making picture frames.
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Stupid damn computer. Lost all I typed, when I tried to add my google search phrase, which was.
Making Picture Frames in Wood by Manly Banister

Anyway I looked for hard to find books for my personal library for years, and got quite good at it. So first try with my search phrase turned up a listing for $1.99, yes the price is correct. I'd look again, but afraid I'll lose everything again. So, just google using Making Picture Frames in Wood by Manly Banister as your search phrase.

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