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Question Router stability when using dust collection

When I connect my shop vac to the dust port on my hand power tools like my plunge router or ros, the added weight of the hose makes the tool more difficult to use. Does anyone know of a hook that can either fit in a dog hole or clamp to the edge of a bench to told the hose up and take the weight off of the tool?
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bungee cord it to the ceiling or find/make one of these...
adding a right angle piece to the top of it is a plus... VOE...

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Adding an offset base also helps. You can make one or buy one from someone like member Pat Warner. He makes some beauties. Here,s a link. Selecting A Subbase

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Most dog holes are 3/4" so use a piece of 3/4" dowel that you get at the hardware store and hook your hose to that.

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I use a large f-style clamp on my bench along with a c clamp and bungee. Works great.

Oops, hard to see the bungee in this pic but is on the other side of the clamp bar. I also loop the cord through the bungee to keep it out of the way. Works great for sanding too.
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Also make sure that you are using several feet of smaller diameter hose to attach to the tool. Dont step down from the 2.5" hose right at the tool.
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Selection of the hose will also affect the operation. I bought the Rockler Hose and Adapter Kit (on sale as I thought it was vastly over-priced) and can confirm the biggest complaint in the reviews - the hose is heavy. I then bought the Fulton 10' Hose Kit - Item #384 - from Peachtree Woodworking and it's perfect for the application. Only 1-5/16" dia. and very lightweight - probably wouldn't hold up to general use, but I only use it to hook up to hand tools (router, ROS, track saw, etc.) and think it would last for that. I have the Rockler hose/power cord and it's OK, but Stick is right in that a 90° extension would be an improvement - and you can go the route shown in the sketch below. For sanding and routing, I've found that the handiest method is to have the hose draped over my shoulder, coming from behind me, and down to the tool as it eliminates any "pull" against the tool from the weight of the hose.
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I use a self winding plastic clothes line like this one

Everbilt 40 ft. Retractable Clothesline-72917 - The Home Depot

attached to the ceiling above my workbench. I added a Velcro cable tie like these

https://buycableties.com/collections/velcro

to the end loop piece of the clothes line so I can attach it to the middle of the hose and power cords to hold them above the work bench and out of the way, I use additional Velcro cable ties to bundle the power cord and vacuum hose together at several points.
It's quite easy to add or remove a turn or two of spring tension to this clothes line to get
just the right amount of lifting on the hose and power cable so they float above the bench and don't drag, yet not strong enough to lift the tool. It only takes me a minute or so to bundle the tool power cord and vacuum hose and attach the end of the clothes line to the middle of the working loop and be ready to begin sanding or routing. I only needed to loosen the clothes line tension by one wrap to get mine adjusted to be "just right". I left the plastic loop fitting on the end of the clothes line because It also acts as a good rewind stop and a place to hook onto if your shop ceiling is higher than mine.

A cup hook screwed into the end of a 1/2" or larger dowel rod can be used to hook onto the loop end of the clothes line to pull it down from the ceiling when you want to use it. I can reach the end of the hanging Velcro strip, so I don't need the dowel rod hook system, but some of you with higher shop ceilings might need it. When not in use, the small clothes line reel attached to the ceiling is the only indication that this system even exists. I frequently have new visitors to my shop ask why it is there, and then are very impressed when I demonstrate it.

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Thanks everyone! I have the Rockler universal kit like the hose pictured in BigMuddyRiver's post. The hose is high quality but is really heavy. I was inspired by all of these solutions so came up with something that I think will work well. I took a small piece of 1/2" pvc and sanded one end down so that the OD was a snug fit in the 3/4" dog hole. I was afraid that running straight 1/2" pvc would be too flimsy with the weight of the hose hanging on it so I used a 3/4" x 1/2" reducer to step the pvc up to 3/4" right at the top of my bench and attached a 3' piece of 3/4" pvc to that. I drilled a 3/8" hole through the pvc at the upper end and ran a 3/8" hook bolt through the pvc. I ran my hose and cord through a 3" 1 gauge steel ring and then put the ring on the hook. Right now I'm working out of my cramped garage and sometimes move my bench outside to work so I needed something portable. Once I get a proper shop setup I may do something like the boom arm in the sketch.
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