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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-10-2017, 07:19 PM Thread Starter
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To start off, I’m a novice wood worker. Gonna try and make this as brief as possible. The wife and I decided we are going to get rid of the corian counter tops in the kitchen and replace them with butcher block tops.The woods we decide to use are a combination of Zebra wood, Black Limba and Bubinga. I decided to make a cheap prototype. In fact, the 1/8” roundover bit for the router cost more than the wood and the gel urethane that I used to complete the cheap prototype. I know I said I was going to make this as brief as possible. For some reason I had to add the back story.

Here’s my issue. When using the 1/8” roundover I came across a mind blowing issue. When running scrap wood through the router to set the height I wanted, it looked as though the router bit started raising gradually from the mid point for the wood and further until a complete pass. Made no difference using feather boards to hold the scrap in place. Anyone come across this problem? Not sure I will route the counter tops but, this is an irritating issue.

Thanks for any input.

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Hi Frank. Welcome to our little corner of the 'net.

A couple questions... have you used this router before? Or is it brand new to you?

A common problem for new router users is putting the bit all the way to the bottom when it is inserted. Several reasons not to do this:1)The collet is designed to pull downwards slightly when tightened. If the bit is bottomed out, it can't pull it down and therefore can't properly tighten on the bit shank. 2) Heat will transfer from the bit directly to the motor and perhaps result in premature failure.

The other common reason for this to happen is that the shank is undersize. If it's a bit from a major manufacturer of bits, this isn't likely, altho not impossible. If it's a cheaper brand of bit, perhaps sourced off Ebay or Amazon, quality is hit and miss.

If you can, measure the bit shank and ensure that it is indeed 1/4", or 1/2".

Using featherboards, while a great idea, would not have helped in either of these cases as the bit itself is raising.

Another possibility is that you forgot to lock the height adjustment after setting it. Not common, as usually the weight of the motor pulls down.

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Hello Frank and welcome to the forums...
Brian did a great job of covering your question...
as a new body to WW I have a few suggestions...

treat your wood as an oily wood glue up...
spline the top together to avoid creep and help keep separations under control...
see the PDF's...
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here's some more light reading...

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just a little bit more to go...

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and if you still could use a few extras...

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The question is ...is the router new or used? I had a problem with the collet not keeping the bit is place. I solved it by throwing it out the back door and replacing it with a new one.

And make sure you blow out any possible dust that might be collected in the collet.

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Pretty sure Mike meant the collet not the router, Frank .
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@FranklinC Frank, get a half inch rubber grommet and drop it into the collet. Bottom the bit on the grommet, which should eliminate the creep that can come from bottoming the bit on metal. Make certain your height adjustment is set tight as well as the collet. I had a problem with a Rockler router that crept. There was an adjustment to tighten the movement so it wouldn't creep. The Triton TRA001 must be tightened or it will creep, I think many other brands have a similar lock.

Hope this eliminates the problem. I really prefer the quality of Freud bits, but my door and cabinet making sets are Sommerfeld brand. I don't bother with Asian bits since most are Chinese.

I would like to suggest you look up the YouTube videos by Marc Sommerfeld. He sells tools, but was a cabinet maker of considerable skill before that. His videos downplay promoting his brand, but show many methods of working that will be very helpful for you as you progress in the hobby.

BTW, I have no connection with the company, but man, did his viceos help me get a solid handle on routing!

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Pretty sure Mike meant the collet not the router, Frank .
Yes, I still have the router, just a new collet and router bit.

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