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Although a member of this forum for many years, I have only recently started woodworking again. Medical problems almost did me in.

I was dismayed to discover that Pat Warner had passed away during my absence. I had long planned on purchasing his CDs and ebooks. What I have seen of his work I find fascinating, inspirational, and any other number of adjectives. I have learned much from just studying pictures of his jigs, but I want more! But his website first stated that no orders would be accepted, and then the website just disappeared off the Internet!

I have his physical books. I have copied everything I can from the Wayback Machine archives of his website. I also have all of the Fine Woodworking articles he wrote.

Does anyone else here have anything by him that I could buy/borrow/etc?

I don't understand why his site just disappeared when even the pictures are vastly informational on techniques that I have not seen described elsewhere. I understand that the physical items he made can no longer be available, but why do his written words have to disappear?

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Likely his family wishes plus they did not want to maintain his website.

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Anyone purchase Pat Warner's ebooks/PDFs?

I purchased two and I have all of his physical books but I'd love to have purchased the remainder of his collection had I known he was in poor health.
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Seems to me I saw some stuff available on Amazon.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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I don't know about the ebooks and whatever, but if you want books, then used bookstores are often a good bet - often for very reasonable prices. (For years I bought boats on boat building, and often paid from $3-$7 a book, seldom more then $10, and now some of them are supposedly worth as much as $350, last time I checked.) If you just want to read some of his books, then check your local library. If they don't have what you want, then for a small fee they can borrow from another library.

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Sorry, I should've clarified. I own all of Pat's books that were published but he self-published a large number of plans/tutorials/how-tos on jig-making, drilling, templating and loads on general routing. I was wondering if anyone had purchased the self-published materials?
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Sorry, I should've clarified. I own all of Pat's books that were published but he self-published a large number of plans/tutorials/how-tos on jig-making, drilling, templating and loads on general routing. I was wondering if anyone had purchased the self-published materials?
Oops, caught that. Meant to write "if anyone wants books".

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Although a member of this forum for many years, I have only recently started woodworking again. Medical problems almost did me in.

I was dismayed to discover that Pat Warner had passed away during my absence. I had long planned on purchasing his CDs and ebooks. What I have seen of his work I find fascinating, inspirational, and any other number of adjectives. I have learned much from just studying pictures of his jigs, but I want more! But his website first stated that no orders would be accepted, and then the website just disappeared off the Internet!

I have his physical books. I have copied everything I can from the Wayback Machine archives of his website. I also have all of the Fine Woodworking articles he wrote.

Does anyone else here have anything by him that I could buy/borrow/etc?

I don't understand why his site just disappeared when even the pictures are vastly informational on techniques that I have not seen described elsewhere. I understand that the physical items he made can no longer be available, but why do his written words have to disappear?

Thank you,
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Anyone purchase Pat Warner's ebooks/PDFs?

I purchased two and I have all of his physical books but I'd love to have purchased the remainder of his collection had I known he was in poor health.
Hi all,

I was in a similar position in May 2017 when I learned of his illness. At the time, he was unable to make anything, but was still able to ship out some things he still had. So I bought a bunch of stuff plus all of his pdf's. Here's the moral (& legal?) dilemma: A few of his pdf's are marked copyright, but most are not. Were he alive, or if his family was still selling these, it would be "bad form" for me to share or sell even the non-copyrighted ones. But he passed away July 28th, and his family has taken down his website and isn't selling his articles, nor making them available to the public. What to do ... ?

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Dead or not I’m sure it’s still illegal. You could offer his widow a royalty if you can get an email to her.

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Find out who owns the copyrights, then write them and ask for permission to share them on this site at no charge. Also ask if they are going to sell these items in the future, and if yes, then you'd like their permission to share them with some individuals on this site. Mention that he posted often at Router Forums and that he is missed, and that a few people really want some of the materials you purchased some time ago. Make it clear you won't share the material without their permission, and that you would not charge anything for them. Also mention that many items do not carry a copyright and might be public domain. If you get permission from the copyright holder, you can share the material just as they allow. I often give limited permission for public sharing of select copywritten material.

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