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Has anyone found a viable alternative to Kreg pocket hole screws??

Lowes has washer head screws but with limited length selection

looking in particular for 1" length, coarse, for attaching "3/4" ply interior use

1 1/ 4" length pokes through the attached wood so I need the shorter length

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I would like to source an alternative to the whole premise of Kreg's monopoly. Square drive preferably.

I can get the smaller head screws but not the washer heads

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I saw some on Grizzly's site in their close out section. Lots of pages, gotta just go through them to see if they have the size your after.
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I buy Kreg screws by the 500 count box from Amazon. Much cheaper that way.

https://www.amazon.com/Kreg-SML-C1-5...70_&dpSrc=srch

That gets you down to 3.4 cents per screw. I don't expect you'll do a lot better than that.
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Here's one option, a little pricey

https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/6_...k_p/a12952.htm

Another, a little better price

https://www.wwhardware.com/low-profi...ad-screw-sclp8

Quick Screws has a better selection, pick your point style and finish

https://www.quickscrews.com/catalog/...5D=Washer+Head

I've dealt with both Quick Screws and Woodworkers Hardware, good service from both.
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Smitty, I think you are drilling your pocket too deep. Adjust the collar on your drill bit so it drills a pocket that is a little more shallow. Test it out. Hope this helps.

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Smitty, I think you are drilling your pocket too deep. Adjust the collar on your drill bit so it drills a pocket that is a little more shallow. Test it out. Hope this helps.

Mike-- had it set for 3/4 and the tip just broke through
reset it for 5/8 & it was fine

measured the ply &---it miked out @ .705

looking at the screws after the reset to 5/8 it appeared that the length into the receiving wood was going to be acceptable

of course IF the manufactures actually gave us 3/4 or 1/2 or whatever dimension that we bought then I wouldn't have this problem


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thks for the alternative sources

will check them out

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Smitty, I think you are drilling your pocket too deep. Adjust the collar on your drill bit so it drills a pocket that is a little more shallow. Test it out. Hope this helps.
Yep--the "3/4" ply is more likely 11/16" so if the jig is set dead on 3/4" the hole is deeper than expected, and the material you're going into is thinner. I pull the tip of the bit back a little when i'm using ply (if I mill solid lumber, it's 3/4" exactly so not a problem). I've done it enough that i have an eyeball on where i need to be with collar--but at first it was a little trial & error. I think at some point i had a pencil mark on the collar setting thing--but it's worn off now.

Kreg's screws are good quality in my eye, but i buy most of mine on Amazon Warehouse. Usually the boxes are just beat up. I may be short a few screws, but when you find them on the warehouse i usually get them at 25% to 30% below street price.

McMaster-Carr may have a good alternative, but i'd want to see the self tapping set-up compared to what Kreg uses before buying any real quantity. That Kreg design does a great job of helping to draw the pieces together.

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EDIT--i must type slow...the whole thing was solved between the time i started & finished!!
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I had a recent need to use Kreg's mini pocket hole jig and I needed stainless screws. Of course, Kreg only make stainless screws in one size and length, and they are for the standard Kreg jig. I ended up using Phillips rround head stainless screws of the length that I needed and it worked fine. The smaller Kreg drill made a hole almost the prefect size for the stainless screws that Lowes had. I believe they were #7 (from memory).

I know I didn't answer your question, but sometimes you can find standard screw hardware that will work fine with the Kreg jigs and one of them might be the solution. You need the right head diameter and a flat bottom on the head. Satisfy this and most any screw will work. Don't use flat head screws because the bottom side of their heads is cone shaped and will split the wood with the pocket hole.

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