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I didn't want to make it out of Ebony but the customer insisted. I told him Ebony is best for inlays, not
large projects too much movement in the wood as temperature and humidity change. I told him it would be
expensive. He wanted Ebony, and not just any Ebony, African Ebony the best. Well just the material came
to $900.00. I used Dominoes and Epoxy in all the seams. While making it I had a piece laying on the bench
in the sun and when I went to pick it up I could not hang on to it, to hot. After three month he brought it back
all the seams had opened up. After six weeks in my 50% moisture room the seams mostly closed up. You
can still see the seams in the picture. I gave it back to him and he was happy, but I wasn't. Than he asked
me to make him a marble box to store the marbles. You guessed it hi wants it made out of Ebony.
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Larry; 'My shop. I'm the Pro. My rules.'
If you know something is just plain wrong, and the client won't listen, politely decline the commission.
When was the last time a professional portraitist took painting instructions from his/her subject...
Tough love, Larry.
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The client is what is termed a discerning person.

Or, as us plain folk say it, more money than brains.
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I' agree with Dan :
If you know it will be wrong, don't.


That's the back of a cutting board that don' t move any more!
Strongly fastened 20 screws to a thick plate of aeronautic aluminium alloy !
Not my work , but I like the fun of it.
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The problem with doing work for someone when you know it will not look great is that another person (with more brains than money, perhaps) is likely to look at it and rate your skills by what he sees. It might discourage them from asking you to make them something. Maybe when a customer is insistent, you could tell him that you will only make it his way if you can add a disclaimer to the back of it. LOL
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Great point, Ken!
That brought to mind the situation where the client wants to do their own painting on a reno. If you know and trust their proficiency, well that's one thing, but if not what's the first thing a visitor to the project notices?
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Hay Dan in the end the customer was happy. He realized what I told him would happen.
When he wanted the marble box made out of Ebony and I told him no he asked what would
I recommend and I suggested Birdseye Maple. He was very pleased with the Birdseye. Sometimes
you have to do the wrong thing for the right reason. Now he asks me. So I think it was the
right decision to do it his was so he could see that doing it wrong is wrong.
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I didn't want to make it out of Ebony but the customer insisted. I told him Ebony is best for inlays, not
large projects too much movement in the wood as temperature and humidity change. I told him it would be
expensive. He wanted Ebony, and not just any Ebony, African Ebony the best. Well just the material came
to $900.00. I used Dominoes and Epoxy in all the seams. While making it I had a piece laying on the bench
in the sun and when I went to pick it up I could not hang on to it, to hot. After three month he brought it back
all the seams had opened up. After six weeks in my 50% moisture room the seams mostly closed up. You
can still see the seams in the picture. I gave it back to him and he was happy, but I wasn't. Than he asked
me to make him a marble box to store the marbles. You guessed it hi wants it made out of Ebony.

Larry, my perception of Ebony was that because it was such a hard and dense wood it would never move. I learned something today and so early.

Don in Murfreesboro,Tn.

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Don the sun is the killer of Ebony. Since it is black it absorbs the heat live you wouldn't believe.
I was warned when I bought the wood to not leave the finished product out it the sun, which I
passed on. But it wasn't taken seriously.
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Don the sun is the killer of Ebony. Since it is black it absorbs the heat live you wouldn't believe.
I was warned when I bought the wood to not leave the finished product out it the sun, which I
passed on. But it wasn't taken seriously.
I'm kind of shocked that the epoxied joints opened up???
The board components were free to expand and contract as a unit. How did they manage to develop enough energy to push themselves apart?
I'd be suspicious of the epoxy bonding to the Ebony (too oily?).
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