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Anyone using a homemade dust collector made from a Home Depot bucket?
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5 gal pails are a throw away item for painting contractors. Free to you if you'll just take them off their hands. Keep an eye open for new homes under construction; that's where you'll find them...they have to show up eventually, right?
Hose out the Latex paint buckets immediately, before the paint hardens; shouldn't be an issue as they usually just leave the lids on and use the poring spouts.
We use them in quantity for growing our tomato and cucumber plants. Damned if I'm gonna pay $4+ ea for something that's someone else's nuisance recycling item!
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https://www.homedepot.com/p/Dustoppe...HD12/302643445

Best 5 gallon dust collector there is.

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Yup - I started with a homemade system using a Thein baffle, but eventually got a Dust Deputy. Found the Thein worked OK, but the Dust Deputy works so much better. There is very little dust/particles that get to the Ridgid's filter.

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When I was using 5 gal. plastic buckets for my dust collector I had implosion problems when using them under my Dust Deputy. I found that most plastic buckets simply weren't rigid enough to survive the vacuum. In looking for a "better bucket" I found that the Firehouse Subs" stores were selling their used pickle buckets, which were significantly stronger than the available Lowes and Home Depot buckets, and the money that they collected from these bucket sales was being donated to the local fire companies. The only downside to using these pickle buckets is that your shop will smell like dill pickles for a while, unless you vent your dust collector to the outdoors.

All was good until I switched out my Shop Vac for a re-purposed whole house type central vacuum unit, which has a significantly higher vacuum level than a Shop Vac. All went well at first, until I was vacuuming the shop floor and picked up something that plugged the end of the hose. Almost immediately I heard a thump and when looking around for the source of this thump noise I found that my Firehouse Subs pickle bucket had imploded.

After studying the situation a bit I realized that the Firehouse pickle buckets are stronger than the Lowes and Home Depot buckets mostly because they have reinforcing ribs around the top 1/3 of these buckets. I was looking for a metal barrel to use under the Dust Deputy but I was not finding one easily, so I needed a way to make the Firehouse Subs pickle bucket even stronger. Then it dawned on me that if I stacked three of these Firehouse pickle buckets together that the top bucket would have 3X the wall thickness and the reinforcing ribs would be all the way down the length of the top bucket with them stacked together. I used my Dust Deputy and Central Vacuum unit for almost a year that way, before finding and replacing the 5 gal Firehouse buckets with a 20 gal. metal barrel.

If you have any imploding (collapsing ) problems with your plastic bucket, some of my information above should help you with a "stronger bucket" solution to your problem.

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I fail to see the downside in having the shop smell like a deluxe burger!

Good stuff on the stacked bucket info, Charles. I take it that it works because the inner bucket can't deform sideways? If not that, why can't it crumple inwards?
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My chip collectors are 30 gallon fiber drum with a lock on steel top. A band goes around the lid and metal reinforcement at the top of the drum. It's thick and just won'd implode. I got two of them new from Uline for about $50 each. The only down side is you can't tell how full it is. I think you could drill a peek hole in the top big enough to shine a light in. The actual usable capacity is between 15 and 20 gallons with the Rockler system, and I think it might be higher with a DD. https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail...YE9Q&gclsrc=ds
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I fail to see the downside in having the shop smell like a deluxe burger!

Good stuff on the stacked bucket info, Charles. I take it that it works because the inner bucket can't deform sideways? If not that, why can't it crumple inwards?
If you can prevent deformation then strength tends to increase substantially. Think about the cross blocking on floor joists. Although part of their function is load sharing they also prevent the joists from twisting. Flanges on a I beam do the same thing. I joists are another. a 10" wide strip of 7/16 OSB wouldn't hold up much on its own but if you can keep it vertical and not twist it will hold you and all your furniture.
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The effect of stacking the buckets triples the wall thickness so it stays round and the additional ribs all the way down the top bucket further prevent collapsing. You still only have 5 gallon of capacity and it's located a bit higher than floor level, but it ended the collapsing problem for my system completely. Someone with only a Shop Vac could probably get away with using only two stacked buckets, and it might even work with two white, orange, or grey buckets from the Borgs. The stacking idea was what I wanted to get across. The firehouse Subs pickle buckets are also definitely stronger than the Borg buckets too, if you don't mind the smell for a month or so. They are considerably cheaper than the Borg buckets too. These are just some creative ideas for quickly solving your collapsing bucket problems at a reasonable cost, if you should experience this. The more powerful your vacuum source is, the more likely you will experience a collapsed bucket. Go with a round metal barrel and you won't have any collapsing problems.

My 20 gallon metal barrel will likely not need to be dumped for about 3 years or more in my system, and this is good, because it's located in my shop attic. To use the metal barrel I made a lid from two layers of 3/4 cabinet birch plywood and caulk sealed them together using screws to pull the caulked joint together. The lower layer just fits inside the barrel. The top layer is 2" larger all the way around so it readily sits on top of the barrel and provides a lifting point as well. I used 1" wide closed cell foam Weatherstrip attached to the under side of the upper layer of the lid where it would contact the rolled top edge of the barrel to seal between the top edge of the barrel and the birch lid. When I mounted the Dust Deputy to the top of this lid I also used caulk to seal this joint. No leaks could be found on the first try, so this method is working well.

Sorry for the sideways photos. But they show the first collapsed Firehouse Subs bucket and then the before and after of my central vacuum with the metal barrel finally installed. I don't think I ever took any photos of the three Firehouse Subs buckets stacked together. The last photo also shows the exhaust port (above the vacuum) where it exits my shop building under the eave of the roof. I just used the plastic flap door fitting for central vacuum systems on the outside wall of the shop, seating it in caulking to keep the rain from getting behind it. When running the vacuum, it kind of sounds like a far off jet plane, but it's pointed to the North and lake side of my shop. I've asked both neighbors if it bothered them and they said "NO", but I didn't ask or care if the Canadian Geese residents of the lake minded, and I don't care if it bothers them. They bother me plenty by decorating my sidewalks and driveway. b

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Good pictures Charley. That is quite a setup for that little cyclone. Thanks for the pictures.
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