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Which is more durable in high traffic areas? Also which is easier to maintain in winter seasons?
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For durability and ease of maintenance, I'd suggest laminate.
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look at this way...
often, wood flooring still looks good and is still fully serviceable even after more than a century of usage..
we're talking the real deal here and not prefinished..
you'll be very lucky to get a decade out of composite flooring... the norm seems to be 4~6 years...
high traffic.. less...
damaged wood floors can be repaired and w/ composite, you replace the floor...
you want no maint, etc.. put in terrazzo...
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I love terrazzo, Stick, but the installation is disgustingly messy! It's also extremely treacherous if it gets any water on it (VoE).
Emma; don't discount the simulated wood vinyl flooring, it's virtually indestructible.
It's becoming the go-to product for commercial installations like lobbies, nursing homes, and restaurants.
Personally I prefer non-slip ceramic floor tile, especially if there are dogs in the family.
Dogs claws are murder on vinyl and wood. Having said that, modern wood floor finishes are TOUGH! As long as they're maintained, the floor is protected.

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Laminate handles any water on the floor very poorly. I have a rental house and the renters just moved out. They had wet mopped some of the laminate, even after being told not to, and it swelled the joints. They also had a dog for a while and didn't bother putting a water proof mat under its water dish so they also damaged the floor there. As Stick said, there is no repairing that. It was my in-laws house and they put laminate down in the kitchen which is a mistake. I'm replacing that with vinyl plank. It's fairly easy to put together, resists wear fairly well and is waterproof. You can also lay it directly over concrete.

Some of the laminate looks pretty good and if it will stay dry it is cheaper and goes down faster than hardwood and it's easier to replace in a disaster but hardwood is virtually forever. I did install some bamboo in my house and it's advertised as being 10% harder than oak. It still scratches and dents but it is repairable. The only hitch is that it was pre-stained and pre-finished with a clear coat so I have to try and match those if I want to fix it or remove all the finish and start over.

Like Dan said ceramic tile is very tough but can be slippery when wet. Years ago the rule was that you needed a 1 1/4" thick minimum sub floor to resist movement so it wouldn't crack the tiles or grout joints as would happen with a standard 5/8" or 3/4" subfloor. However, the new uncoupling membranes allow installation on just the basic subfloor as long as it is very solid. I laid ceramic down from my entry way through dining room and kitchen several years ago and have had no issues except with a puttzy brother in law who dropped 2 large bottles of booze on it just prior to his wedding to my sister in law and knocked chips out of two tiles. My wife covered them with a throw rug and I keep forgetting about them. I'm going to try patching them with some colored epoxy when I remember at the right time one day. I have no idea how hard it is to break them loose from that membrane and clean it up to replace instead.
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"I have no idea how hard it is to break them loose from that membrane and clean it up to replace instead."
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Use your multitool with a grout removal blade (diamond or Carbide grit) to cut all around the tiles, then break them up with a roto-hammer.
the roto-hammer (hammer only function) can also be used to scrape the thinset off the sub-floor.
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I have no idea how hard it is to break them loose from that membrane and clean it up to replace instead.
cut the grout loose w/ your MM...
break the tile w/ a center punch and prt it up...
clean up the thinset w/ your MM...
install new tile and grout...

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My flooring is laminate. It is very slick, as in before I got my power wheelchair, I had to be very careful transferring wheelchair-bed etc. I got to know the first responders very well. My dogs would slip slide around when chasing balls, etc. (The last is too old to chase his ball now, so I can't show a video of him sliding around.) Also, my washing machine, after it was installed where I could use it, overflowed the outflow pipe. I will post pictures later today.

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FWIW, I sold flooring. A customer replaced his laminate with hardwood. Said walking on laminate was like walking on cardboard. I agree- I replaced my laminate with hardwood. Now I wish I had put down carpet. What do you define as high traffic area? Home or business? Pets? Kids?

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Also, my washing machine, after it was installed where I could use it, overflowed the outflow pipe. I will post pictures later today.
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