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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-12-2018, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
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Don't know if a thread is started for Black Friday (BF) Deals or not, but figured I'd ask if there are deals to be had.

Still completing my 'collection' so Routers, Dust Collections, Bits, Fences, etc is what I'm in the market for. Assume I can hold off on any purchases until deals are known.

What has been your experience in the past?

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From today's email. Not sure if these are helpful but figured I would practice on how to post. Cant post url"s yet (under 10 posts). I didn't see anything special yet. I'm looking for a second router (Triton)

Peacetree - Code Trend5 for $6.99 1/2 in router bits. My experience with Peachtree is ok
Grizzly - Black Friday Sale . My experience with Grizzly is excellent for higher end. Just ok on cheap items (think Harbor freight +). Excellent customer service if defective but expensive return policy (10% restocking fee)
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Keep an eye open for Harbor Freight. On some holidays they have their 2hp DC unit on sale for about $200, plus a discount coupon for 20-25 percent, which brings the cost down to about $160. This is the model with a 5 micron bag. This should be rolled outside for use as it emits fine particles galore inside your shop and that's extremely detrimental to your lungs. For in the shop use, you need to add a Wynn Filter, with will cost about as much (or more) than the HF dust collection unit itself. Grizzly has a filter unit for the same DC that has a built in beater bar to clear the filter from time to time.

I have two of these, one for the shop, (with the Wynn filter) that now sits outside the shop in a covered area. The other still has the bag and is in the garage so I can roll it outside for use. With a chip collector in line, it's amazing how much cleaner my shop is since I made the move outside. Here's a pix, BTW, I've shortened the hose from shop to chip collector to reduce direction changes. Stick points out that the HF unit isn't as well made as other, name brands, and that in the long haul, they're a better value. I'm 75, so my long haul is fairly short, and I find they work fine.

It is possible to dramatically increase air flow and DC effectiveness by replacing the HF unit's impeller with one from Rikon. It's a tight fit, but doable. But for my purposes, the HF unit does the trick.
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Keep an eye open for Harbor Freight. On some holidays they have their 2hp DC unit on sale for about $200, plus a discount coupon for 20-25 percent, which brings the cost down to about $160. This is the model with a 5 micron bag. This should be rolled outside for use as it emits fine particles galore inside your shop and that's extremely detrimental to your lungs. For in the shop use, you need to add a Wynn Filter, with will cost about as much (or more) than the HF dust collection unit itself. Grizzly has a filter unit for the same DC that has a built in beater bar to clear the filter from time to time.

I have two of these, one for the shop, (with the Wynn filter) that now sits outside the shop in a covered area. The other still has the bag and is in the garage so I can roll it outside for use. With a chip collector in line, it's amazing how much cleaner my shop is since I made the move outside. Here's a pix, BTW, I've shortened the hose from shop to chip collector to reduce direction changes. Stick points out that the HF unit isn't as well made as other, name brands, and that in the long haul, they're a better value. I'm 75, so my long haul is fairly short, and I find they work fine.

It is possible to dramatically increase air flow and DC effectiveness by replacing the HF unit's impeller with one from Rikon. It's a tight fit, but doable. But for my purposes, the HF unit does the trick.
Would it be best to use a cyclone or dust collector or a dedicated wall unit. Using a garage that has no window.

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Would it be best to use a cyclone or dust collector or a dedicated wall unit. Using a garage that has no window.

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I think a cyclone is better than the chip collector I have built from a fiber drum and Rockler components. The 4 inch model of the Dust Deputy is about $250, so I'm not replacing what I have. You could also use a Thien separator in a fiber or other drum, shop made mainly from ply. It is about as effective as a cyclone and not particularly hard to make.J. Phil Thien's Cyclone Separator Lid w/ the Thien Cyclone Separator Baffle.

A chip separator actually catches sawdust and chips so your DC system stays pretty clear of dust, particularly important for preserving air movement without clogging the filter.

Moving the DC outside will greatly reduce the ultra fine particles that leak from the filter into your shop air. Rockler makes a simple tube that goes through your wall, and you can build a simple lean-to to protect it from the weather. You can see in my picture how it works. The power went through the same opening. I had enclosed the space between two sheds so there's air flow, but water is kept out. If you build an exterior housing for your DC unit and drum, be sure to allow plenty of air flow, perhaps using attic vents.

If you want to return the air to your shop, you can use a vent with some very high performing filters in front of it. You'd do this to avoid losing warm air during winter, or AC air in summer.
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It may not be practical in all situations but, I dispensed with the bags and l run my HF through the wall to the outside. There's a 35 gallon chip collector ahead of the collector. The dust that actually accumulates outside is minimal.
Saves boucoup space and no bag hassles.
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It may not be practical in all situations but, I dispensed with the bags and l run my HF through the wall to the outside. There's a 35 gallon chip collector ahead of the collector. The dust that actually accumulates outside is minimal.
Saves boucoup space and no bag hassles.
Plus it must be a lot quieter. The DC is the noisiest machine in my shop.
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Would it be best to use a cyclone or dust collector or a dedicated wall unit. Using a garage that has no window.
I feel a more detailed question yields better answers.

1. Using a garage bay
2. Garage has no windows, no ventilization
3. Garage is a finished area (e.g. has dry-wall, both walls & ceiling)
4. Exterior of garage is all brick, actually have brick on 4 sides of house.
5. Several have mentioned 'venting' this out; I see two issues with this
5a. I live in a HOA controlled neighborhood
5b. My A/C units (2) are on the other side of wall from garage (outside). Not sure I want to vent dust "TO" my a/c.
6. Garage will remain functional, e.g. cars parked inside nightly.

With that said, whatever method I use will most likely be 'inside' and completely enclosed.

Seems like the Cyclone is the leading candidate as of now. This will be an all-new set-up so feedback is greatly appreciated so that I don't build this 'twice'. Would rather pony up the extra scratch ($) to do once.

Budget, let's not go crazy here, but willing to listen as like y'all, only have one life to live.
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