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First post here, and itís a challenge for the collective wisdom and experience of you fine folks!

I have a Dewalt 625 in a table. I added the Xtreme Xtension by Router Technologies. (Router Raizer still in the box waiting for me to tackle that installation.)

I used it a few times, then my shop time went to zero for nearly a year. Now I canít get the xtension out of the router. This wouldnít bother me too much as I intend to keep it in there permanently. This is a dedicated table router, especially once I install the raizer,

But the 1/2 to 1/4 collet reducer is also stuck. I wouldnít have noticed until I realized that putting a bit in it did not result in any kind of tightening. So it wonít hold a bit, but it wonít come out either. The set screw is out, so that being tight is not the problem.

I have sprayed it with Freeze-off by CRC. I cannot get it to move. (Freeze off is more of a lubricant than actual freezing agent, though it does have a small freezing effect at the outset. It is mostly for cutting through rust. It is what I had on hand.

I am at a loss here. Iím not very mechanically inclined, so I donít have much experience in getting stuck metals apart without destroying them. I have ordered a replacement collet reducer, they are cheap enough, but I need to get this one out without destroying the xtension. I bought mine in rockler over a year ago for about 75, they are now over 90.

I am thinking of putting the whole thing in the freezer for an hour then trying to remove it. But I wanted to check in with others before I do something like that.

Any advice?
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welcome N/A...

for the Xtension; I believe the wedge is jammed into the reducer...


The wedge and bolt work together to secure retain the cutter in the extension.
screw the set screw into the wedge a tad and lightly hit the head of the screw to knock the wedge loose...

as for the router see the PDF....

after you get everything apart clean everything better than really well..
see the maint PDF...

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welcome N/A...

for the Xtension; mechanically spread it open ever so gently..
as for the router see the PDF....

after you get everything apart clean everything better than really well..
see the maint PDF...

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Thank you for the fast reply.... I confess my ignorance, I have no idea how to go about the bolded part. I donít even know what tool I should be looking for. I have been trying to hook it from underneath via the recommended paperclip method (From the manualj, and that didnít budge, so I found something like a dental pick with a handle, and still nothing.
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Thank you for the fast reply.... I confess my ignorance, I have no idea how to go about the bolded part. I donít even know what tool I should be looking for. I have been trying to hook it from underneath via the recommended paperclip method (From the manualj, and that didnít budge, so I found something like a dental pick with a handle, and still nothing.
see the edited post...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

Stick....
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
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Thank you for the fast reply.... I confess my ignorance, I have no idea how to go about the bolded part. I donít even know what tool I should be looking for. I have been trying to hook it from underneath via the recommended paperclip method (From the manualj, and that didnít budge, so I found something like a dental pick with a handle, and still nothing.
you do stand a chance of damaging something w/ that dental pick...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
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Hi Air Weaver and welcome. Regarding using the extension all the time: imagine that the armature/router extension in your router is a lever. The bottom bearing would be the fulcrum. The longer the distance from the bottom bearing to the force being applied by the router bit the more force being applied to the bottom bearing and also the top bearing. Moral to the story: if you don't really need the extra length then I would recommend not using it. Also members have stated that it vibrated badly when using larger diameter bits.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Ah, ok, I re-read it now. Unfortunately the wedge is already out. I removed the screw and wedge easily. But this collet reducer is stuck like Fleckís tongue on a flagpole in A Christmas Story.
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Hi Air Weaver and welcome. Regarding using the extension all the time: imagine that the armature/router extension in your router is a lever. The bottom bearing would be the fulcrum. The longer the distance from the bottom bearing to the force being applied by the router bit the more force being applied to the bottom bearing and also the top bearing. Moral to the story: if you don't really need the extra length then I would recommend not using it. Also members have stated that it vibrated badly when using larger diameter bits.
I installed it so that I could change bits over the top of the table instead of under, and I am starting to see why that ďfeatureĒ is not a good idea.

I am ready to abandon the whole idea of the extension based on this feedback. But as it is still stuck in my router I am still in a quandary as to how to get it out without damaging the router.
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Ah, ok, I re-read it now. Unfortunately the wedge is already out. I removed the screw and wedge easily. But this collet reducer is stuck like Fleckís tongue on a flagpole in A Christmas Story.
use heat from a hair dryer...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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use heat from a hair dryer...
I have a heat gun, so even better!

I was under the impression that heat expands metal though, so I assume this is to apply to the extender, not the collet reducer stuck in the middle?
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