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Hello everyone. First off, I'm new to woodworking and I absolutely love it. I'm ready to dive in to all kinds of projects and I'm slowly adding tools to my arsenal. I know that I'm going to need a router eventually, so I'm up in the air on which one to get. I do not currently have a table, but I will get one eventually. I've been researching a few and here they are: DeWalt DWP611PK, BOSCH 1617EVSPK, BOSCH mrc23evsk. I've read that the last one doesn't work with a router lift. However, I don't know anything about a lift. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Welcome to the forum, John! Add your first name to your profile to clear the N/a in the side panel. Add your location, as well.

I have the 1617 in my router table and also for a plunge router - love it!

We do like photos so even though you're just starting out you can show us your shop, tools, projects, etc. whenever you're ready.

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hello John...
welcome to the forums...

I'm Bosch guy...
as for lifts, I'm partial to JessEm... https://jessem.com/...

to help you out w/ the learning curve of routering we have this here link w/ you in mind...

WHY I LIKE BOSCH...
2nd to none CS/TS support (American based) that's absolutely painless... They even been known to support some of their tools that have been discontinued...
Their tools are real work horses...
planned obsolesce isn't an issue w/ Bosch as it is w/ so many other manufactures and come w/ all around less grief...
their tools last, even for decades after hard heavy use..
they make tools that protect your bottom line which makes them a very good investment...
what's not to like???...
Besides being comfortable to use routers, they are feature rich, have excellent bullet proof soft start, finite depth adjustment, quality collets, and so much more...
I think and believe Bosch to be an excellent outstanding company w/ superb products come routers...

Keep in mind, that saving some money now just may cost you a lot more down the road... So, do yourself a huge favor and get Bosch...
Bosch consistently scores high in/on all categories of quality, CS/TS, reliability and support, and they are as close as a phone call and your mail box...

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Hello and welcome to the router forum, John
If you only get one router get at least a 2.25 hp plunge router and fix base should be able to handle anything To start.
down road you probably will have more than one

Looking forward to your participation.
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Welcome to the forum, John! Add your first name to your profile to clear the N/a in the side panel. Add your location, as well.

I have the 1617 in my router table and also for a plunge router - love it!

We do like photos so even though you're just starting out you can show us your shop, tools, projects, etc. whenever you're ready.

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Welcome to the Forum, John...you will get lots of help here...so never be afraid to ask even the simplest of questions.

Buying a router kit that will give you a fixed base and a plunge base is very helpful...it will save you money in the long run by not buying one or the other.

I have the Bosch 1617 kit and love it...I use it mostly free-hand with the plunge base. I also use the fixed base when edge-profiling free-hand. It also has great dust collection used free-hand.

I have a Triton in another table...that is sweet. A bit heavy to use free-hand and, as a plunge router in a table, the springs have to come out to allow easy adjustment in the table.

Stick posted a link to a bunch of router basics...good read. Also, do some Y'Tubing for "router basics"...lots of good videos available...and you will be able to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Looks like you've narrowed down your choices...each have their own peculiarities.

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Go to Account Settings on the top right of this page, then on the left side panel you'll see Edit Signature. Go to Edit Your Details and near the bottom is a field labeled Location.

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Hi John, welcome to the party. Stick posted a link to all kinds of pdfs on routing. Better than buying a separate book. I have attached a pdf of the 18 things that helped accelerate my own learning curve. I made a number of poor purchases over the past 12years, so this is a distilled list that hopefully will help you avoid some of the mistakes I made. It is long, ten pages, but it has pictures.
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Hi John and welcome. A number of the very large plunge routers have the capability to be adjusted from above a router table so don`t require a lift. Some of the mid size routers also have that ability. The 611 is really a trim router, really nice to use on small jobs, but it`s really too small for use in a table. We have lots of info on building your own table and functional tables can be made for a few dollars. I`ve made some basic ones for around $10 by repurposing or using scrap material. The Bosch 1617 is well rated for both table and handheld. I have a Hitachi (now Metabo) M12VC that`s mid sized and I love using it.
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Welcome aboard John. As is apparent Bosch is a favorite among a good number of use and I also have several BOSCH 1617EVSPK routers. You'll find in time that as you progress having one router will not be sufficient unless you like changing things out. I started with one BOSCH 1617EVSPK and found I was moving it back and forth with my router table . When I built mine, wish I had done so way back when, I bought a table top and fence. For me it was the Woodpeckers Super Fence and top. Building it is a great experience and you can design the pull out drawers for your own liking. Mine ended up with 3 drawers on the bottom and several smaller bit drawers on each side as seen here at the bottom on this page of my website. I also added a Jess Em lift that makes it very easy and accurate to set the height of your bits and make minute changes as needed.
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