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I picked up an old Craftsman router -only 1HP- but I have no desire to actually build furniture ..just put a decoritve edge on shelves and put together simple boxes and some inlay type stuff etc

Basically just needed something with more power/bigger bits than my dremel and this is the one I won


The router itself is in pristine condition for being old
No router bits yet as they're in the mail ..29th.

I do however see that the collet doesn't really seem to tighten. There is only one cut? in the collet and no matter what that slot stays the same size
I put a 1/4 sized something in the collet and just ...it doesnt seem to tighten around it
Just wobbles around free

Is an actual bit going to make a difference?
This is the type with a c-clip? on top of the nut/collet combo


just thought I'd get on it now
Are there better collets you can use that are universal?

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If you have a 1/4" drill bit, see if the collet tightens on this, DON'T bottom it out. If the collet fails to tighten, then it's best to replace it. Not really sure if there is such a thing as a "universal" collet. A "reducer" for the 1/2" collet, these are pretty much universal.

More info on the router would be helpful, model #, etc.

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I picked up an old Craftsman router -only 1HP- but I have no desire to actually build furniture ..just put a decoritve edge on shelves and put together simple boxes and some inlay type stuff etc

Basically just needed something with more power/bigger bits than my dremel and this is the one I won


The router itself is in pristine condition for being old
No router bits yet as they're in the mail ..29th.

I do however see that the collet doesn't really seem to tighten. There is only one cut? in the collet and no matter what that slot stays the same size
I put a 1/4 sized something in the collet and just ...it doesnt seem to tighten around it
Just wobbles around free

Is an actual bit going to make a difference?
This is the type with a c-clip? on top of the nut/collet combo


just thought I'd get on it now
Are there better collets you can use that are universal?

alright
Hi Lawrence, welcome to the forums. I'm not a big fan of sears but they do have an excellent parts system. I don't think there is such a thing as a "universal" collet. Ken is right about checking it with a drill bit or other more or less precision item. The router bits I have spot checked run +0 to -.015 the norm. Drill bits I have checked will run +.005 to -.020. Dunno where a 1/4" something falls.
Safe way is if you have ANY question about the collet, replace it. You certainly don't want the thing chasing you around the shop at 25,000 rpm. Can spoil a whole day.
Here's a link to Sears parts to check out a new collet if you need one:
Parts & Accessories | Shop & Find Lawn & Garden, Appliance Parts at Sears PartsDirect | SearsPartsDirect.com
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This is where I tell everyone I was planning on doing just that -using a drill bit-
instead of a 1/4 whatever piece of metal thingy
I seriously was ...but they're in the basement and I was in a hurry and
it's christmas shoppi
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Lawrence,

I'd recommend that you replace the collet. To quote Lonnie Bird, "The smallest part of the router has one of the toughest jobs. The colet of the router has to grip a bit securely while under the stress and strain of cutting through hardwood at speeds of about 20,000 rpm. Yet there is no mechanical interlock between the bit and the collet as there is with most power tools; the collet simply squeezes the bit."

The collet will be cheap and you won't have to deal with a collet possibly damaged by overtightening by a former owner.

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It's a Craftsman "power" Router
1977 315.17480 model 1/4 only, 6.5 amp, 1HP
sort of a big laminate trimmer but after routing out a 4x5 section 1/4 deep in plywood with some dinky dremel engraving bit it's gonna feel like the Binford 3000

Very few scratches on the base and better-looking than the photos
I just got sick of waiting for a router to fall in my lap as I'm trying to finish up a homemade large format box camera

Maybe it seems undersized
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I think the collet is OK
Really, I do. No play ..I'll look for any kind of wobble or rough cutting but Im good I think

Got family up there in Anchorage ..Soldotna, Tok anyway
Never been myself ..lots of offers
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Hi Lawrence,

If the collet or even the collet nut is damaged in some way, it may not fully tighten around a bit. As mentioned above, not wise to have a bit flying around the shop at 20,000+rpms.

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got my first bits
a $12 edmwholesale 8pc

tried em out and everything is fine
I think I'm gonna love using a router


I have a rheostat type device and wondered if OK for use with a 1HP router -if the 1HP means anything
I know its not ideal from what I've read but perhaps for small scale work it wouldnt hurt?

Thanks for the advice and help and all
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lawrence,

A router speed control will work with a router only if it is not already a variable speed unit and does not have soft-start.

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