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Hi guys. This is a GREAT forum with a lot of great info. I've been dabbling with woodworking projects over the last few years.. I have a small table saw, scroll saw, and a Dremel. The Dremel I have used as both table router and hand-held router with the additional accessories. That's great for small hobby type projects, but i wanted to get into bigger badder things. Looked around and found at Lowes a Ryobi router combo for 99! Got it together and it is a nice little setup. I'd recommend... My only complaint is that the router didn't come with an edge guide. They do sell it as a separate accessory for an extra 20. I'll definitly have to get it for this project tho.

Anywho, my main question is jigs. I would rather make my own, but I haven't really found much info. The project I am christening my new router with is a bunk bed/desk for my daughter. Most of the cuts are straight forward (channel cuts and edges), but there will be several lap joints where either 2x4 or 2x6 will cross. I decided on lap joints as these are clean looking, strong, and just have a pro look. So I'll be using the router to cut these 1/2 depth cuts 4" or 6" wide. Any pointers for this job? The table is fairly small and I believe that using the table for these cuts will be difficult at best.

Are there any good sources for homemade jigs? Google found some here and there, but I'd like to find a listing of easy to make jigs in one place. Figured you folks would know better than Google on this one. This will also be the first furniture project and the largest I have ever done. Down the road I'd like to do graphics/lettering but that will be a while. Thanks for any info!!!
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How did you get a Ryobi combo from Lowes?
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When you browse the forums look at the left side of the screen, under the name of the poster and you will see "view so-and-sos gallery". Those are the pictures that the poster had inserted into their post. The gallery is a wealth of all the projects, including jigs and templates, that the poster made.
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How did you get a Ryobi combo from Lowes?
That is a great question...LOL. It was Home Depot not Lowes. Sorry.
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Thanks Doc. I see we're practically neighbors!
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a Ryobi router combo for 99! Got it together and it is a nice little setup. I'd recommend.
How are you liking the combo? I just got the same combo this year and so far have just used it on the table. Probably will keep it table mounted as I just got a little surprise last week of a plunge router.

My only problems with it have been that the fence could go further back, the miter slot isn't a standard 3/4" and that I am getting tired of taking out and putting those two little screws back in to cover the opening around the bit opening on the side of the router every time I change bits.

Outside of those things I really have liked it so far. I would have had the fence complaint on all of the router/table combos that were in my budget range at the time (super low). It has made me aware of a lot of things I want to do when I make my own table (already got everything but a plate, waiting for warm weather to route in the t-tracks since it is melamine and I don't want to route the mdf center inside) like a longer in and out feed, more room to back the fence away from the router and if I can, a little light under the table so I can see better if I am still doing under the table bit changes.

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but there will be several lap joints where either 2x4 or 2x6 will cross. I decided on lap joints as these are clean looking, strong, and just have a pro look. So I'll be using the router to cut these 1/2 depth cuts 4" or 6" wide.
As for making your lap joints I always found using a table saw or circular saw worked good for doing that on larger pieces of wood. Make a mark how far you want the cut to go, set the blade depth to the correct height then run it across the table saw blade several times moving it over a bit each time. Or the same with the circular saw. Then when you have lots of thin little pieces use a chisel (or even a hammer) to knock off the pieces. If it is a bit rough because of the cuts or pieces didn't break off even use a sanding drum on the dremel to clean it up.

Should also be able to set up the router with a temporary guide system and do basically the same thing, only instead of making multiple cuts make multiple passes across the board with a router, adjusting the depth each time you have routed off the area. There is probably a jig to do this, I just can't think of the proper name

A harder way to do it (at least to me, plus it seems more dangerous because of the length of the boards) is to treat it almost like cutting a tenon, only you are only cutting the one side of the board, not both. Would mean having the board pointing up in the air, which is why I don't like it with boards long enough to be making a bed, then set the tenon jig (which you need to make to do the cut) and do it that way. Since I don't have a tenon jig some one else would have to explain how to do it that way.
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That is a great question...LOL. It was Home Depot not Lowes. Sorry.
No worries. I think Duane867 modified his Ryobi table to his liking.
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How are you liking the combo? I just got the same combo this year and so far have just used it on the table. Probably will keep it table mounted as I just got a little surprise last week of a plunge router.

My only problems with it have been that the fence could go further back, the miter slot isn't a standard 3/4" and that I am getting tired of taking out and putting those two little screws back in to cover the opening around the bit opening on the side of the router every time I change bits.
So far I like it. I do agree that the fence could move farther. So far I haven't really needed more room than the fence allows.... I can see this changing in the future tho, at which time I will need to upgrade (build) a bigger/better table. Until then this should suffice. As for the little chip guard, yeah, that could have been designed better. One screw will hold it place, but that does of course weaken it slightly....

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As for making your lap joints I always found using a table saw or circular saw worked good for doing that on larger pieces of wood. Make a mark how far you want the cut to go, set the blade depth to the correct height then run it across the table saw blade several times moving it over a bit each time. Or the same with the circular saw. Then when you have lots of thin little pieces use a chisel (or even a hammer) to knock off the pieces. If it is a bit rough because of the cuts or pieces didn't break off even use a sanding drum on the dremel to clean it up.

Should also be able to set up the router with a temporary guide system and do basically the same thing, only instead of making multiple cuts make multiple passes across the board with a router, adjusting the depth each time you have routed off the area. There is probably a jig to do this, I just can't think of the proper name
Using a table saw is an option, but the table saw I have is about the same size as as this router table, so cutting large boards in such a precise maner is difficult. My circular isn't adjustable for depth. What i was thinking was making a jig I can clamp onto the boards that allows for the width of the routers base and simply make a few passes manually. The jig would make sure my cuts are straight. I haven't seen any such DIY jigs so I'll just have to make it myself.
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