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Iím sure there must be hundreds if not thousands of folks asking which router to buy, so I was somewhat hesitant to ask the same question. As some might have picked up from another thread, Iím in the market for a small trim router. The Bosch Colt and the Trend T4 Plunge Router came up as being very good routers. I also looked at the RIDGID Trim Router at Home Depot which I liked, but Iím undecided at the moment. Right now Iím looking something small, but later on after my wish list gets a little smaller, Iíll be looking for a 2 hp combo plunge/ fixed base router.

Anyway, as I was searching through some of the posts and not all because thereís too many, I was thinking there has got to be a better way of doing this. The other thing I noticed was that nobody reports back after they purchased one and have worked the heck out of it to say if they still are satisfied. Most of the reviews Iíve read are from people who just received the item and havenít really had time to test it out.

I know that when I first bought my 2hp Craftsman Router many years ago, I was really happy with it and for months and I thought it was my greatest addition to my tool collection. For me it was a huge step up from my little orange Black & Decker and my dadís hand me down ľĒ Craftsman router. But then things changed, I discovered even better and more practical routers out there like the plunge router. Also I started having problems with the Craftsman like the bit coming loose in the collet or the adjustment ring sticking.

It would be nice to have table listing all the routers and columns to rate various features with maybe a note about a particular asset or deficiency. One requirement would be to have used the item for at least 6 months and also to be able to change your rating if you discover something later on would also be nice. Iím probably just lazy, but I donít want to spend the time searching through thousands of posts looking for something to fit my needs.
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Hi Johnny,
I have the Bosch Colt & have had it for a couple of years now. It is a great little router. Completely happy with the performance. I also have a little PC trim router that is not bad, but I prefer using the Colt over the PC.

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Hello Johnny..

interesting observation you've made!! I'll just get to it..

1 older craftsman trim router (7-8 years old) no complaints, nothing fancy, got the job done. Wasn't much in the way of options available for this one. Still running yet..

1 no so old craftsman VS rotary tool. with all the most of the accessories including plunge base. ONly problem with this thing was the plunge base itself. Just kinda cheesey! went through two of em before giving up. junk is junk. other than that, the tool itself works great.

1 vs bosch colt. couple years old. few accessories and love it!! Great balance, great feel when working with it. Considering the available accessories for the colt, its a keeper. Only downfall is NO plunge base offering that I'm aware of. With that in mind. I'd probably go with the Trend only because of the plunge base offered.
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I think there is the basis of a good idea here. I'm just not sure how it would work. A spreadsheet listing all the current and recently available makes and models with ticks for features would certainly be very handy and reduce the number of questions that have obviously been asked before and which might take much mining otherwise to pull up. Including older models, given the second hand market, would be useful as well.

There is a huge amount of useful information already in the old threads, but it isn't always very quick to wade through and search strings don't always pull up all the relevant posts.

It sounds like a job for someone with a bit of spare time, collating all the technical information, publishing it to get comments, then adding those in, to provide a download. To be worthwhile, it would also need updating as new models come out.

In view of the time involved, there would really be a cost element. Maybe sponsorship (probably NOT from someone selling routers (!) but maybe a router bit manufacturer, with an advert heading the spreadsheet, to encourage someone to take the task on
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I think there is the basis of a good idea here. I'm just not sure how it would work. A spreadsheet listing all the current and recently available makes and models with ticks for features would certainly be very handy and reduce the number of questions that have obviously been asked before and which might take much mining otherwise to pull up. Including older models, given the second hand market, would be useful as well.

There is a huge amount of useful information already in the old threads, but it isn't always very quick to wade through and search strings don't always pull up all the relevant posts.

It sounds like a job for someone with a bit of spare time, collating all the technical information, publishing it to get comments, then adding those in, to provide a download. To be worthwhile, it would also need updating as new models come out.

In view of the time involved, there would really be a cost element. Maybe sponsorship (probably NOT from someone selling routers (!) but maybe a router bit manufacturer, with an advert heading the spreadsheet, to encourage someone to take the task on
might work.

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Hi Peter:

I suggested this in the past and got a whole lot of silence in response. I also pointed out that one of the problems is use. What is a person going to use a router for? That will dictate a lot. All routers are well made and will perform well in many situations, but only a few will function well in all situations.

Take skis, for example. There are very few routers that will function well on skis. Some, like the Porter Cables, need to have a jury-rigged kludge just to be able to function on skis.

I proposed just a system to classify routers as suitable for a given situation, and again, silence. Ken proposed a FAQ, and again silence. I posted my notes, just classifying routers and was flamed. Since then, I keep all such information in house. I'd love to support your suggestion but experience dictates a certain unwillingness on the part of the leadership to allow something like this to proceed.

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Only a matter of a few weeks ago Mark asked my opinion on having a thread devoted to members reviews on new tools that they had purchased and in fact asked if I was interested in kicking it off the ground. I replied that I thought it a great idea but because of time constraints initially I would be happy to just sit back and watch it develop. The delay in starting it could well be because of the university course that Mark is completing.

This type of review would, in my opinion, be far more meaningful than those published in magazines that accept paid advertising.Having said all this, I must make it clear that even these reviews should only be taken as a guide because, don't forget that "one man's meat is another man's poison"

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I am looking for a pin nailer and am undecided about the brand. I am leaning toward the Porter Cable but it is limited to a 1' pin. My use is for small projects and cabinetry. Is 1" enough?
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Hi Peter:

I suggested this in the past and got a whole lot of silence in response. I also pointed out that one of the problems is use. What is a person going to use a router for? That will dictate a lot. All routers are well made and will perform well in many situations, but only a few will function well in all situations.

Take skis, for example. There are very few routers that will function well on skis. Some, like the Porter Cables, need to have a jury-rigged kludge just to be able to function on skis.

I proposed just a system to classify routers as suitable for a given situation, and again, silence. Ken proposed a FAQ, and again silence. I posted my notes, just classifying routers and was flamed. Since then, I keep all such information in house. I'd love to support your suggestion but experience dictates a certain unwillingness on the part of the leadership to allow something like this to proceed.

Well, this is a ROUTER FORUM. Such a feature would appear to be an appropriate use of band width.
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I am looking for a pin nailer and am undecided about the brand. I am leaning toward the Porter Cable but it is limited to a 1' pin. My use is for small projects and cabinetry. Is 1" enough?
Hi - Welcome to the forum
I have the PC pin nailer and so far 1" has been adequate, I usually use the 5/8". I will say that on a couple of occasions a bit more reach would have been nice though. Problem is when you get over the 1" capability, the price of the thing increases substantially.
Hope this helps

Incidentally, this thread is probably more appropriate under the "General Woodworking>Tools and Woodworking" category. Maybe one of the administrators can move it for us.

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Hi Johnny,
I have the Bosch Colt & have had it for a couple of years now. It is a great little router. Completely happy with the performance. I also have a little PC trim router that is not bad, but I prefer using the Colt over the PC.
Thanks James for pulling this up out of the mud so to speak. I was out of town for awhile and somehow missed this until just now when it showed up in my email.
I still havenít bought a new trim router yet and Iím very glad to hear that yours is still running and that you are still happy with it.
A funny thing happened after I first posted this thread. I was trying to rout into tight spot and was just about to get my chisel to finish, when I knocked my cheap little Black & Decker of my workbench. Half the base broke right off when it hit the floor and as I was about to throw it into the trash, I realized that it just be able to finish the job. I gave it a try and it worked leaving only a small amount to chisel so I decided to keep it until I get a new one. Itís probably not too safe this way and I will have pick up new one pretty soon.
I think Iím going to take another look at the colt.
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