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Some time ago I saw a comment on the use of a thin spring or wave washer to solve the problem of the lock collar/ bushing set-up from vibrating loose during use. Does anyone know of such a piece of hardware? All the washers I'm able to find are too thick to do any good on a router. Has anyone had success with other means of lock collar retention?

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John... I'm sure there are cheaper ones elsewhere but here's one source I stumbled on while ordering some bushing reducers to use my 1-3/8" bushings in my 1-3/4" (LV / OP) router base plate.

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John, I got mine at Home Depot, but any hardware or home supply store should have them.

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If you have a drill press and a 6-32 nylon screw you can make the ring a locking type easy...just drill a 1/8" hole on the edge of the brass ring and tap it out with 6-32 hole, then put the nylon screw in place but just a little bit you should see the tip of the nylon screw inside of the brass ring than cut it off the nylon screw with a sharp knife, touch the end of the screw on the grinder or belt sander to clean up the end and your done..all done with a .02 cent fix..that works

Note***it will be real tight the 1st.time you use it but the guide will cut the threads on the nylon and than it works just right after that.. just that little drag it needs..

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Some time ago I saw a comment on the use of a thin spring or wave washer to solve the problem of the lock collar/ bushing set-up from vibrating loose during use. Does anyone know of such a piece of hardware? All the washers I'm able to find are too thick to do any good on a router. Has anyone had success with other means of lock collar retention?



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Anyone tried wrapping PTFE plumbing tape around the threads?

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If you have a drill press and a 6-32 nylon screw you can make the ring a locking type easy...just drill a 1/8" hole on the edge of the brass ring and tap it out with 6-32 hole, then put the nylon screw in place but just a little bit you should see the tip of the nylon screw inside of the brass ring than cut it off the nylon screw with a sharp knife, touch the end of the screw on the grinder or belt sander to clean up the end and your done..all done with a .02 cent fix..that works

Note***it will be real tight the 1st.time you use it but the guide will cut the threads on the nylon and than it works just right after that.. just that little drag it needs..

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Great idea - Washers work great but something else to fumble with and they can easily be misplaced. Teflon tape would probably work but needs to be reapplied every time, or almost every time. A replaceable nylon button seems to have all the upside and none of the down.
Well, only downside for me is I already bought 4 of the washers. I can use it on the big bushing though

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Hi John

Thanks ,here's just one more that works for the small brass guides and the bigger guides if you don't want to drill and tap the brass ring, a simple (very thin 1/16" diam.) O-ring that you can pickup up at the hardware store for .05 cents or less, pickup one that's a lot smaller than what you need and stretch it over the guide threads and push it all the way down to the lip.( 3/4" and a 1 1/8" works well) you will see them use in kitchen faucet repair kits.. but ACE hardware has a tray rack of them.

How it works,,,,when you put the nut in place it will compress the O-Ring and put the load on the brass threads and lock it in place..

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Great idea - Washers work great but something else to fumble with and they can easily be misplaced. Teflon tape would probably work but needs to be reapplied every time, or almost every time. A replaceable nylon button seems to have all the upside and none of the down.
Well, only downside for me is I already bought 4 of the washers. I can use it on the big bushing though


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how about some loctite?
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Loctite is great stuff if you don't want to remove it .


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how about some loctite?
Depends on the color. The red and green stuff is pretty much permanent, need heat or an impact to break it loose. The blue stuff will come apart, probably with a couple of water pump pliers.

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