dado blade set versus router - Router Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: United States
First Name: chris
Posts: 6
 
Default dado blade set versus router

I have been wanting to know for a long time whether I need to invest in a dado blade stack as many projects I want to do seem based on this auxillary piece. I have a very nice router and router table and would prefer not to have to spend a couple hundred dollars (which I don't have) for a decent dado blade set up.

In particular (and at present) I am looking to make some half-lap joints. I have tried using my router but the results seem to take a long time and are not exactly up to the standard I had hoped for. Is it just me? Is there a strategy/skill I lack or would the stack be faster, easier and yield cleaner results. If so, what would I have to spend and what names do I look for (Freud?) (used is ok). The Forrest King looks outstanding, but is just not gonna happen on my budget.

thanks for any ideas - I love this site!

christie (first time poster).
firstlight is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Registered User
 
Phil P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Country: United Kingdom
First Name: Phil
Posts: 2,117
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstlight View Post
In particular (and at present) I am looking to make some half-lap joints. I have tried using my router but the results seem to take a long time and are not exactly up to the standard I had hoped for. Is it just me? Is there a strategy/skill I lack or would the stack be faster, easier and yield cleaner results.
I suppose the questions I'd like to ask are:
1. What size collet does your router have?
2. What size (diameter) cutter are you using?
3. Have you made yourself a router T-square?
The reasons are that a router which will take a 1/2in shank cutter will generally be one which can take a bigger cut. A larger diameter cutter (say 1in diameter or larger) will mean fewer passes to hog away the waste form a halving joint and a T-square will allow you to plough a trench across the work at the shoulder line and take it to full depth before hogging the rest of the waste away. These guys will also recommend a set of home-made router skis to support the router - just do a search of this site and you'll find references galore to these handy items. As for speed and cleanness of cut a table saw with a dado head will always be quicker, but a router will be safer and cleaner than the dado set

Regards

Phil
Phil P is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 07:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Country: United States
First Name: James
Posts: 2,304
 
Default

Hi Chris,
I have a nice Freud super dado set for my table saw which I prefer to use for cabinet making. It leaves nice flat bottom square dadoes. But you can also use your router table for the half laps. I think you just need to fine tune what you are doing. A jig which you can buy or make for you hand router would be useful also. I think a good dado set is worth the money. I would not purchase a low budget set. Buy a good set when it fits your budget. But until then you can achieve what you want to do with what you already have.

James
Whittier, CA.

Have a nice & safe day!
jlord is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 07:36 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: United States
First Name: Bj
Posts: 23,786
       
Default

Hi Chris

If you have a router table you can make a quick and easy jig to do the job, the router table will put most dado sets to shame..

======



Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	0141.jpg
Views:	575
Size:	63.0 KB
ID:	44364  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0140.jpg
Views:	424
Size:	33.2 KB
ID:	44365  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0135.jpg
Views:	329
Size:	29.5 KB
ID:	44366  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0143.jpg
Views:	332
Size:	24.7 KB
ID:	44367  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0152.jpg
Views:	318
Size:	24.4 KB
ID:	44368  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0153.jpg
Views:	394
Size:	29.7 KB
ID:	44369  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0137.jpg
Views:	629
Size:	113.2 KB
ID:	44370  


"It's fine to disagree with other members as long as you respect their opinions"

Marc Sommerfeld Tools ,Videos
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT-n...RWaEpMA/videos

Find all threads started by bobj3
http://www.routerforums.com/search.php?searchid=944097



Last edited by bobj3; 06-10-2011 at 07:44 PM.
bobj3 is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: United States
First Name: chris
Posts: 6
 
Default

Thanks, to you both for the input. I'm pretty new at this. I have a 1/2" collet and up to 3/4'' straight bit. Would that be the way to go - it will take many shallow passes, no?

Any illustration available of a jig I could build -for the table, I'm guessing, or for hand held passes?
firstlight is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 07:47 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: United States
First Name: chris
Posts: 6
 
Default

Ok, Bob, that's what I needed. You slipped that in while I was replying.

Thanks to all!
firstlight is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 07:54 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: United States
First Name: Bj
Posts: 23,786
       
Default

Hi


Making a 3/8" deep pass is easy for most routers
3/4" bit will work just fine.
and yes you can use your hand router for the job.

==========

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstlight View Post
Thanks, to you both for the input. I'm pretty new at this. I have a 1/2" collet and up to 3/4'' straight bit. Would that be the way to go - it will take many shallow passes, no?

Any illustration available of a jig I could build -for the table, I'm guessing, or for hand held passes?


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	0107.jpg
Views:	757
Size:	28.2 KB
ID:	44371  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0108.jpg
Views:	376
Size:	24.9 KB
ID:	44372  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0109.jpg
Views:	216
Size:	22.7 KB
ID:	44373  

Click image for larger version

Name:	0112.jpg
Views:	757
Size:	63.7 KB
ID:	44374  


"It's fine to disagree with other members as long as you respect their opinions"

Marc Sommerfeld Tools ,Videos
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT-n...RWaEpMA/videos

Find all threads started by bobj3
http://www.routerforums.com/search.php?searchid=944097


bobj3 is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 11:07 PM
Registered User
 
paduke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Country: United States
First Name: Bill
Posts: 1,184
 
Default

Well the dado blade set is more foolproof if you have a good TS fence. but TS doesn't do blind dadoes. But the Dado blade set for a hundred will incrementally go from 1/4 to 1" by 32's of an inch That a lot of special router bits. Actually if your good enuff and I am not you could chisel a nice dado Current Project I am doing I used both, I used TS dado for 23/32 plywood I need both
paduke is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2011, 11:21 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: United States
First Name: John
Posts: 3,046
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstlight View Post
I have been wanting to know for a long time whether I need to invest in a dado blade stack as many projects I want to do seem based on this auxillary piece. I have a very nice router and router table and would prefer not to have to spend a couple hundred dollars (which I don't have) for a decent dado blade set up.

In particular (and at present) I am looking to make some half-lap joints. I have tried using my router but the results seem to take a long time and are not exactly up to the standard I had hoped for. Is it just me? Is there a strategy/skill I lack or would the stack be faster, easier and yield cleaner results. If so, what would I have to spend and what names do I look for (Freud?) (used is ok). The Forrest King looks outstanding, but is just not gonna happen on my budget.

thanks for any ideas - I love this site!

christie (first time poster).
Hi Chris - welcome to the forum

I think a router makes a cleaner dado but, IMO, it's not that important for half laps. Freud's lower end dado set does plenty good for me and at under $100 doesn't break the bank and takes a load off my router bits. This is the set I have:
Amazon.com: Freud SD206 6-Inch Professional Dado: Home Improvement
They also make the same set in 8" but my saw can't take the 8" stack.
I use it almost exclusively for half lap joints, usually use the router, either table or hand held, for rabbets and shelf or divider dados.

John Schaben

The problem with experience is I usually get it immediately after I need it.
jschaben is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-11-2011, 06:37 AM
Registered User
 
Gene Howe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Country: United States
First Name: Gene
Posts: 10,574
 
Default

When building large doors for the shop and barn, I used the hand held router and a simple guide to make the half laps. I ganged the timbers and cut them. But, for long grooves and rabbets (8') I used the dado stack. The router method would have been OK, too. At the time, the dado set on the TS seemed faster.

Gene Howe
Snowflake, AZ

'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you and make for a friendlier forum.
Gene Howe is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
First Benchtop Router Table, get a plate or go bare? silentblackhat Table-mounted Routing 38 05-30-2012 02:30 AM
For Sale: Router Workshop Set Up dovetail_65 Woodworking Classifieds 19 05-05-2011 11:38 AM
Elite Tools 66 PC Router Bit Master Set 1/2" Shank Racer2007 Router Bits - Types and Usage 19 01-10-2011 06:39 PM
router vs. dado for a rabbit cut vmerlino General Routing 4 10-23-2009 07:45 PM
40mm template guide harrysin Guide Bushings and Templates 144 02-22-2009 11:39 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome