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Default Looking for a FLAT SUB-BASE for PC894PK

I purchased PC894PK in a shop in USA.
But Sub-Base of a router is not FLAT.
So... I need flat sub-base. If possibly, DEAD FLAT is the best.
Which product is the best ?
Would you like to advice me for getting Flat Sub-Base of PC894PK.
Please let me know about your recommendations.



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I mailed to a shop to chage convex(concave) base to flat one. The answer is "contact to Porter Cable".
Then I mailed to Porter Cable. The answer is "contact Black&Decker".
I mailed to Black&Decker. The answer is "contact Black&Decker in Japan".
I know this way well. It is just like as our administrative organs. It is called "Tarai mawashi".

A surprise to me is ... at the first time Black&Decker mailed me "We can not assist you", but now they changed their mind to "we will send to you". But they also mailed me "you must pay for sub-base".
This is the way of the American Manufacturer's assistance ?
This is the Conscience of American manufacturer ?
As a matter of cause, I replied "I do not pay any money. Because your product is the DEFECTIVE."


I am sorry for my poor language. So I ask you all to guess what I want to say.
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Benny,
How distorted is your sub base? Are they the clear polycarbonate sub bases or the black phenolic style?

I rarely use the factory sub bases, since I like larger ones that have square sides for following a fence. The factory sub bases are used when I need template guides above the table.

If you plan on table mounting your router, you can find a good quality plate and just leave that on your router all the time.

I've also made an offset base a while back out of acrylic sheet, which I also drilled with pivot pins for use as a router compass.

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Hi Benny

This what I would do drop a email to the SHOP/Company that you got the PC from and ask them to replace the sub base with one that's flat,be nice but hold to your guns,PC is not a fly by night company and I'm sure they will replace it at no charge (IF IT's NOT FLAT AND TRUE) but besure you are 100% right or they may charge you for a new base.
I'm almost sure you will have a PC service center that can take care of it for you once you get the OK from the shop you got it from. (RMA Number)
They do back up what they make and sell .

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Benny, this is the first we have heard of this problem. How much would you say the base is off from flat? Are all the screws tightened all the way? Is there an obvious bump that shouldn't be there? Porter Cable builds high quality products and stands behind them. DeWalt service centers now handle all parts and repairs for B&D, DeWalt and PC.(All are owned by B&D since last year) I will assist you in correcting this problem.

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Doug san

Thank you for advices.

Base are the clear polycarbonate. It is a convex shape. The highest place is around center hole. So... when I use it, router swings. Then I want a FLAT sub-base.

Router compass... yes, I bought acrylic plate for that. I wish I could do well...
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Bj san

Thank you for your advices.

The first, I am not used to handle a GUN. Good citizen like me (^_^) has no chance to shoot it. But if possible, I would like to have a SAA which has a 7-1/2 inch barrel, one-piece wooden grips. My favourite one. But it costs maybe more than $5,000. Expencive....

Well... if a sub-base is flat, I have no reason why I complain about it to manufacturer.

It is better for me that PC is to be a fly by night company. Because If I can not contact PC, I can give up anything.
But it is not. I can contact them. But they do not take duty which they should take, I think.
It is not a good for me.

After all I must let myself understand that American manufacturer is unkind to a persom who lives outside USA.



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Mike san

Thank you for your advices.

assist :
I would like you to recommend me a GOOD SUB-BASE for PC894PK as I wrote before.
It is the best assist for me now.
I decided not to use PC product on sub-base.




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How off from flat : I can not measure it. I do not have a tool which is suitable for it.(*1)
tighten screw : base itself is convex (without presure)
bump : no.
hq : I've heard about it. So I decide to purchase, but ....
(*1) Gap is 0.02 inch by my friend's measuring. He says "Tolerance(Allowable error)".
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Benny, the reason your sub base plate is not perfectly flat may seem strange but it is true: This allows for minor irregularities in the wood and ensures the wood will always pass the bit at the same height. Rousseau mounting plates are made with this same feature. This is not a flaw.
If you want to remove this just sand it flat. If you prefer to replace the sub base plate here are some high quality phenolic plates from Oak Park, sponsor of The Router Workshop. 11" square plates are for table mounting. 7" square plates are for free hand use and do not have holes for the height adjuster. 7" square plates have holes in the corners that you may mount bearings in for centering the router on a piece of wood. You can view these in the US version of the catalog by clicking here:
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Mike san

Thank you for an infomation and suggestions.
But I prefer CLEAR sub-base now rather than non-clear one.
Because I purchased router just for AKEDA dovetail jig.
I am beginner so clear base is easy for me to handle router with AKEDA. A reason is I want to see Bit and also PIN of AKEDA during operation.

Thank you for many kindness.
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Just checked the clear base from my PC kit and it is indeed flat.
Stick with trying to get a new one from PC, I find it hard to get the right contact person, but once you do things move quickly.
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