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Hi Guys, I have been browsing for some time and really appreciate the quality of info available on this forum.

Right now I have a Dewalt 625EK which is going into a new table I am about to build.
I would like to get a second smaller router for hand held use and because of the prices in Aus and the lack of choice am considering buying from the US.

However, most are basically combination fixed and plunge. I don't really see a need for a fixed base but am quite prepared to buy a combo and would like to know if you can tell me where I would use a fixed base instead of a plunge router.
I am considering the Dewalt 618 and the Bosch 1617 both look like good routers.

Further down the track, I will probably buy a trim/palm type router but currently need a hand held mid size router.
Your comments would be appreciated.

John
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[QUOTE=Sheoak;386138]Hi Guys, I have been browsing for some time and really appreciate the quality of info available on this forum.

Right now I have a Dewalt 625EK which is going into a new table I am about to build.
I would like to get a second smaller router for hand held use and because of the prices in Aus and the lack of choice am considering buying from the US.

However, most are basically combination fixed and plunge. I don't really see a need for a fixed base but am quite prepared to buy a combo and would like to know if you can tell me where I would use a fixed base instead of a plunge router.
I am considering the Dewalt 618 and the Bosch 1617 both look like good routers.

Further down the track, I will probably buy a trim/palm type router but currently need a hand held mid size router.
Your comments would be appreciated.

John[/QUOTE

John,
I just went through exactly what you have described. I have the motor of my PC 893 in my table in a Mast R lift and it's a hassle to get it out so I needed the second rounter as you have said that you need. I have the Dewlt 611PK in route. I do see where a fixed base might be needed occasionally, I'm not sure of that, a friend of mine that put me onto this peticular router says that I will never need it, but I have it anyway. You might have a look at this router, it was hightly recommended by my friend who I have great respect for his judgement. I need to say that in regard to my decision I have two other friends that I also respect their judgement, one of them suggested the Makita Compact, and the other one suggested the Bosch Colt. I don't think that a person would make a mistake with any one of the three. Let us know which you go.

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Hi John,

I use a PC 690 fixed base with a D-handle for most of my handheld routing but my son has the Bosch 1617 fixed/plunge combo and that is one nice router and a favorite for many of the folks on this forum. I also have the Dewalt 625 and I pull that from the table for the occasional times when I need a plunge router.

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Hi Guys, I have been browsing for some time and really appreciate the quality of info available on this forum.

Right now I have a Dewalt 625EK which is going into a new table I am about to build.
I would like to get a second smaller router for hand held use and because of the prices in Aus and the lack of choice am considering buying from the US.

However, most are basically combination fixed and plunge. I don't really see a need for a fixed base but am quite prepared to buy a combo and would like to know if you can tell me where I would use a fixed base instead of a plunge router.
I am considering the Dewalt 618 and the Bosch 1617 both look like good routers.

Further down the track, I will probably buy a trim/palm type router but currently need a hand held mid size router.
Your comments would be appreciated.

John
John, I'll repeat what I've said so often on this forum, a PLUNGE router can do everything that a fixed base one can and then some but a FIXED base router cannot do all that a PLUNGE router can. I would not advise you to purchase from America where routers are for 120 volts which means that you would not only be up for shipping cost but also for a step-down transformer which with freight from Sydney would cost around $80.00.
What sort of price are you expecting to invest in a router? I see that you're just up the road from me in Rockingham!

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I have the Bosch fixed base mounted under my table. I use the plunge base for all hand held operations. It is easy to remove and reinsert the router motor into the base under the table. Bosch 1617 with above table height adjustment capability with hex key.
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Heh...I think Harry just became your new BFF!

John; If I missed welcoming you earlier, Welcome!
You said, "I would like to get a second smaller router for hand held use..."
This topic has come up before and there's a lot of different opinions on every aspect of that question.
-if you're working at a workbench, on the flat, the weight of the router is resting on the worksurface, so weight isn't really an issue.
-if you're trimming laminate, or doing small roundovers, a small 1/4" trim router is a joy to use...no plunge required.
-if you're routing full length dadoes or rebates, more HP is great, but that means more weight. And again you won't be using the plunge function. Having the optional base might be a way better deal rather than buying two routers.

In short, the mantra 'round here is 'You can never have too many routers.'
... take Harry's advice. He's the Guru. lol
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Hi all,
Please accept my apologies for late response to your comments and advice.
I feel that Harry has given me the solution which I will follow especially since to import from the States would involve shipping and the cost of a transformer.

Since I don't see the need for a fixed base I am left with the choice of Makita, Hitachi, Bosch, Triton or Dewalt plus a few other cheaper brands which I don't find appealing .

As I wanted something lighter than the DW625 for hand held use, I am considering the Dewalt 621 (1100Watts) and the Triton MOF001 (1400watts).
One thing I find interesting from the point of view of selecting a router is that I couldn't find any reviews that included a list of tasks that routers are capable of performing. This would be more useful than getting involved in HP/watts, amps, voltages etc.

Once again many thanks for your comments .

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Hi John, both of those routers seem to have good following.

If I was buying another router at the moment, I would try the Dewalt 621 just for a change......( I am still happy with my larger Tritons....)

As for a list of tasks, that depends more on user experience and tool savvy, tool speed and feed speed......

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