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I've have been thinking about building a router table. I've looked at several plans but then started looking at table saw extensions. Has anyone used one of these or have any opinions on them. I've been looking at an Incra TS/LS fence set up for the saw and see that they make one. I've also been thinking that they can't be that hard to make out of MDF and just buy insert plate or lift.

thanks for any help you can offer.

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I've have been thinking about building a router table. I've looked at several plans but then started looking at table saw extensions. Has anyone used one of these or have any opinions on them. I've been looking at an Incra TS/LS fence set up for the saw and see that they make one. I've also been thinking that they can't be that hard to make out of MDF and just buy insert plate or lift.

thanks for any help you can offer.

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I came within an inch of adding a router plate to my table saw extension. But at 6'3" it is just too low. It's a shame because I can see numerous advantages to having the router mounter there.
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They get you by if you are limited on space but the system has limitations that you have to accept. Many feel it is too much of a pain if the extra room is available.

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hi Len. I'm only 5'9" so height won't be the problem.
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hi Len. I'm only 5'9" so height won't be the problem.
Go for it, Joe. Others here who have done this will hopefully chime it on any pitfalls related to the table saw extension. When I was considering it I worried about the table being dead flat and staying that way. For my money it's critical.

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Joe, I am 5'8" and the working height of my setup works fine. I have a Jet hybrid cabinet saw with cast iron top so I opted for the MLCS cast iron router extension. Instead of mounting it on the left side and replacing that wing, I mounted mine on the end of right hand wing since my fence rails extended past the saw on that side. I had to drill new holes to mount it this way but I love this setup. I was concerned about the additional weight making the saw more prone to tip but that has not been the case at all. I keep my big Triton TRA001 router mounted on it all the time. I have included a couple of pics that shows the installed extension.

This setup lets me use the TS as I always have and gives me a quick table router setup. The only downside is I have a nice Jointech router fence that I can't really use on this setup but the MDF fence that came with the extension has worked well so far and is quick and easy to remove if I need to cut wide boards on the saw.

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I thought long and hard about putting a router table in on a TS wing. I came real close to doing it when I made the new wings for my TS. The first reason was the constant changing of settings when going between the TS and router table. Another is that the table saw fence isn't really appropriate for router table use, especially if you use a Biesemeyer style fence. So either a modification of the fence, or an independent fence would be needed. There is also a lot more weight on that wing, so additional legs would be needed as well. The too main benefits of having the router table as part of the table saw is it saves floor space, and you get a much larger work surface. For me, since I have enough floor space, I felt the cons out weighed the pros, so I continue to have a separate router table.

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My table saw has the cast iron wing with a universal router attachment. I had to drill a hole so I could have access to the height adjustment for the Bosch 1617 but that was easy drilling. Surprised me.

This setup has been really helpful when I was cutting multiple boards and running them past a 3/8 inch roundover bit mounted in the router.

The bit does get in the way if sheet goods are being cut, but it is easy to drop the router down, or pull it if necessary.

I have a fence made for another router table that I modified so I could attach it to the TS fence. I have also just used a plain board and clamped it to the table for a temporary fence.
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I've have been thinking about building a router table. I've looked at several plans but then started looking at table saw extensions. Has anyone used one of these or have any opinions on them. I've been looking at an Incra TS/LS fence set up for the saw and see that they make one. I've also been thinking that they can't be that hard to make out of MDF and just buy insert plate or lift.

thanks for any help you can offer.

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Howdy Joe. Jerry Bowen has the exact setup you are desribing. He uses the extension wing and the Incra fence and lift. I'm sure he will chime in soon. He is currently tied up in the shop on a new project, but this west Texas heat will run him inside real soon.

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Howdy Joe. Jerry Bowen has the exact setup you are desribing. He uses the extension wing and the Incra fence and lift. I'm sure he will chime in soon. He is currently tied up in the shop on a new project, but this west Texas heat will run him inside real soon.

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Dick sent me an e-mail and said that I might post to what you have in mind. I have the 52" rails that Incra offers with their LS TS fence positioner and I could not ask for the LS TS system to work any better than it does. I does everything that they say that it will do.

My router table is mounted between the rails that extend beyond the left cast iron wing on the TS. For some time, in order to use the LS system at the router table I had to move the base that the LS system is mounted on from the far right end of the rails down past the TS blade and closer to the rounter table. This worked fine, but it was a bit inconvenient and so I recently added a second LS system, LS 17", it sets close to the router table and is ready for use when I need to use the router and the original system stays put leaving me with access to the TS when using the router in the table, much more convenient.

There is one other unplanned feature that I have discovered by adding the second system to the set up, simply by lifting the 17" system off of the rails and turning it so that the fence is facing to the right instead of to the left you have very good clamping system for joining workpieces by clamping them between the two fences. I do suggest that you put some material down on the TS table's cast iron surface to keep glue off of it, it will save you a lot of clean up effort which, in my case, I hate to have to mess with.

I am about your height and the RT is just the right height for me.

One of the posts to your thread said that there were some inconveniences to consider and I am wondering what was being referred to.

There is one issue that I just thought of that I need to mention. I have a ten inch wide cast iron wing on the left of the TS's table, that along with the length of RT restricts the maximum distance between the TS blade and the LS fence to about 32". This is due of course to to the fact that the left end of the rails being occupied by the cast iron wing and the router table .

Recently I had to cross cuts some boards for a cedar chest lid. The boards needed to be 43". I used Incra's Express sled with it setting to the left of the TS blade along with the fence extention, by fence extension I mean the fence that is attached to miter gauge which in turn is attached to the sled. It worked just fine and so the retriction that have mentioned above is not a handicap at all.

I hope that this adds to the information that you need in order to make your decision.

Let us know what you deciide to do.

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