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I had a 2hp craftsman router that I used to make 4 doors out of hard maple. The bit i used was a Yomico from ebay(cheapest i could find). I burnt out the speed controller on it in the process. I had the speed turned all the way dow but the router was vibrating a bit when running. I was using a horizontal cutter. I have a 3.25 HP router now. I'm wondering if I should buy a vertical bit or use the horizontal bit for cutting the panel profile. I'm scared of ruining my new 3.25hp Hitachi router...

What do you all use for cutting panel profiles? I like the idea of the horizontal bit with the back cutter...
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The first thing I would do is get a better bit. My experience with yonico bits leaves me a good deal less than impressed.

I use a CMT bit with a back cutter and set the speed at approximately 12000 RPM.

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If you were cutting hard maple in 1 pass, could give less the stellar results. I'd cut it in 2, maybe 3 passes.

I also agree with Gene. Raised panel is not a good application for "cheapest I could find".
CMT, Freud, Whiteside, Sommerfeld, Just to name a few. I have also had pretty good use from Grizzly, MLCS, Woodline, etc.

Does the Yonico vibrate running free? If so, I would attempt to use it at all. Otherwise it may be ok with lighter passes.

Oh, and I am assuming your running this in a table? If not, QUIT, and buy or build yourself a router table.

I have found that hand tools are the best choice when I want to make mistakes at a slower rate of speed.

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I had a 2hp craftsman router that I used to make 4 doors out of hard maple. The bit i used was a Yomico from ebay(cheapest i could find). I burnt out the speed controller on it in the process. I had the speed turned all the way down but the router was vibrating a bit when running. I was using a horizontal cutter. I have a 3.25 HP router now. I'm wondering if I should buy a vertical bit or use the horizontal bit for cutting the panel profile. I'm scared of ruining my new 3.25hp Hitachi router...

What do you all use for cutting panel profiles? I like the idea of the horizontal bit with the back cutter...

The bit i used was a Yomico from ebay(cheapest i could find).
that speaks volumes right there...

I burnt out the speed controller on it in the process
but the router was vibrating a bit when running.
out of hard maple.
suspect router bearing failure...
failing bearings/brushes cause speed fluctuations that run rough shod over speed controls...
a bit out of balance...
too big of bites....

wondering if I should buy a vertical bit or use the horizontal bit
buy quality this time...
I like my Freuds...
CMT and Whiteside is good stuff too...

I'm scared of ruining my new 3.25hp Hitachi router...
practice....
you won't ruin your new router...
but park that Yomico...

What do you all use for cutting panel profiles?
Horizontal or Vertical router tables...
Horizontal or Vertical shapers...
Bosch 1617 or 1619EVS routers....
what ever is the most appropriate tool for the mission...

I like the idea of the horizontal bit with the back cutter...
Freud Quadra cut...
premium stuff...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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I took the cut in two passes. I'm definitely going to throw away my cutter bit. I wanted to buy a cheap but for my first go around to make sure I enjoyed building cabinets... And yes I build a nice router cabinet and was doing it on there.

But if I turn the speed all the way down and take 2-3 passes, it wont hurt my new router with the horizontal bit?
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I took the cut in two passes. I'm definitely going to throw away my cutter bit. I wanted to buy a cheap but for my first go around to make sure I enjoyed building cabinets... And yes I build a nice router cabinet and was doing it on there.

But if I turn the speed all the way down and take 2-3 passes, it wont hurt my new router with the horizontal bit?
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More speed = less power. Less speed = more power. The less you cut in a pass the less load is put on the tool. So in general, slowing it down and cutting less means more power on a machine that has less load.

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I took the cut in two passes. I'm definitely going to throw away my cutter bit. I wanted to buy a cheap but for my first go around to make sure I enjoyed building cabinets... And yes I build a nice router cabinet and was doing it on there.

But if I turn the speed all the way down and take 2-3 passes, it wont hurt my new router with the horizontal bit?
what's the diameter of the bit???

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The bit is 3" in diameter. Typically, how much do you take off in one pass? 3/8"? 1/2"?
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The bit is 3" in diameter. Typically, how much do you take off in one pass? 3/8"? 1/2"?
you free hand routing???
what's the total thickness of material you are removing???

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
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I used the Freud Quadra cut raised panel cutter. They come in several profiles. The Bosch 1617 handled it nicely. I also ran it at the slowest speed. I made three passes. there's always time to do it right.

Lots of good info in this thread. I was in the same situation as you, so I asked...
http://www.routerforums.com/table-mo...l-doors-2.html

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