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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 12-30-2014, 06:17 AM Thread Starter
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Default Help Read, Dewalt 625 or Hitachi M12V2

Hi guys, it's shopping time again.

Upgrading to a better quality router. Requires facility for bushes and dust extraction and good depth control. So with these things in mind, I'm down to the DW625 and M12V2.

Does anyone know which you can use template bushes with, if either.

Also, is the DW625 chinese made now or still European? I believe the M12V2 is Japanese with a Japanese motor.
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Not a great comparison. DW still made in the Czech R. and a better tool.
Orginally an Elu, made in Germany, still with pretty good components and QC.
Hitachi one of the most powerful but, in my view, of the cheapest components.
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For once I don't necessarily agree with Pat. I have 3 Hitachis and 2 DeWalts and I don't consider either any better than the other. I have an M12V, M12V2, and a VC. The M12V2 was improved from the M12V for better application to the router table. If you remove the black plastic base plate there is a 13 or 14mm nut which can be used to turn the adjustment rod from above the table. They also put plugs on the ends of the plunge columns to make taking the springs out a 2 minute job. There is a half nut that engages with the threaded rod for rod adjustments or disengages from the rod for plunging or faster adjustments which I find a little tricky to use so far. There is a wider throat than the V for using really large bits and there is a guide bushing holder that attaches across the opening if I remember right (don't use this one with guide bushings, at least not yet). It is very smooth and very powerful. Hitachi is confident enough with the design to offer a 5 year warranty on them. We see members posting here about issues with various routers and I haven't heard members complaining about their Hitachis. Most have been very happy with them like I've been. I realize that that is partly because there aren't as many of us as own some other makes but I was happy enough with mine to buy 2 more.

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Hi Angie

In European terms the DW is by far the better tool, albeit more expensive. Basically it has a much superior collet design, but it also comes as standard with an adaptor plate to take the Elu MOF96/deWalt DW615/Trend-type guide bushes - probably the widest range of any type of guide bush available anywhere with a number of third party manufacturers also producing compatible bushes, such as Axminster. In addition the plunge depth setting is one of the better designs out there with excellent micro-adjustment.

Having used these two models back to back on the bench for Corian work a few years ago (always very hard on routers) I'd have to say that the DW wins hands down in my mind. In comparison with the DW the Hitachi M12V2 looks like a Reebok trainer on acid (which I don't like), but worse to my mind is the fact that it is an elephantine (physically overly large) tool whilst being no more powerful than the DW (current type 6 DWs are rated at an identical 2000 watts). The lack of a standard guide bush holder is another reason to mark it down in my estimation.

In terms of dust extraction neither is that special - in fact to get good dust extraction in a 1/2in router at this power level you really have to look to the Festool at an eye-watering price. DW do make a smaller 1/2in router, the DW622 (based on the DW621 and the earlier Elu MOF97 designs), which has much better dust extraction and is pretty compact, but it is only rated at 1400 watts which isn't really enough for heavy joinery work IMHO

If table routing is a requirement I know that a 15~20 fine depth adjuster is available for the DW625 (ref DW6966) - they work OK - but if you want above the table adjustment then there is a varient of the DW625 made for Trend, called the Trend T11ek, which has such a facility and which will in addition accommodate guide bushes up to 70mm. The Trend version alos features an 80mm plunge depth (as opposed to the 65/70mm of the DW625)

Am I a fan of the DW625, then? Yes. I've had a MOF177e since the mid 1980s, bought my second one in the late 1990s and more recently bought a DW625. I can still get most of the essential spares for all of them - not that I much need to because main failures to date have been bearings, brushes and collets/nuts - all the result of much usage. I can't think of another router available in the EU that you could say the same for - other than a couple of other ex-Elu designs

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Thankyou Pat, Charles and Phil for you time in your informed answers.

I have to say I'm a bit DW biased and it was the bushes and overall quality I was concerned with. I already have a table mounted router, so not really an issue. I was hoping that the DW was a good choice.

As the DW is only 30 more expensive, small amount comparatively, I think that's the one I'm going to go for. It'll match my TS, Drill driver, impact driver and ROS too
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