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Default Older TRA/C001 owners...Collet Upgrade...?

Have any of you upgraded the older style collet Assy to the newer one...?

I think mine has bit the dust...or the dust bit it... It is fine with 1/2 shanks but the 1/4 adapter lets the bit ride up. I was cutting a 1/4 inch slot 1/8 at a time in 3/4 red oak and noticed it riding up about 1/4 in by itself.
Naturally I stopped and investigated and it seems the 1/4 in adapter is not being clamped enough. While it holds the 1/2's okay the collet feels like it is bottoming out rather than squeezing the shaft.

I'd rather be safe than sorry so a replacement is in its future.

Question is...have any of you upgraded to the new assembly...?

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Have any of you upgraded the older style collet Assy to the newer one...?

I think mine has bit the dust...or the dust bit it... It is fine with 1/2 shanks but the 1/4 adapter lets the bit ride up. I was cutting a 1/4 inch slot 1/8 at a time in 3/4 red oak and noticed it riding up about 1/4 in by itself.
Naturally I stopped and investigated and it seems the 1/4 in adapter is not being clamped enough. While it holds the 1/2's okay the collet feels like it is bottoming out rather than squeezing the shaft.

I'd rather be safe than sorry so a replacement is in its future.

Question is...have any of you upgraded to the new assembly...?

Thanks in advance...Nick
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Musclechuck would seem to be the answer.

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i checked out the Musclechuck but first choice is to keep it "stock" for now... The new Triton collet seem to be a good performer...maybe that's a wrong impression...?

Thanks for the recommendation...Nick...

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Yes, I replaced mine to the later one but believe me, removing the old one is far from being a simple matter. The later genuine replacement that I got from England had a very sloppy thread so I immediately placed an order for a MUSCLECHUCK even though one hadn't yet been produced but when it finally arrived it turned what was already an excellent router into a brilliant one. It now protrudes well out of the table and a half turn of a 4mm ball ended Allen key is all that's necessary to lock/unlock the bit. All three of my 1/2" routers now have MUSCLECHUCKS.

Edit: I've just found these shots showing the struggle I had to remove the lower part of the chuck after some methods shown on the internet failed. No doubt because heaps of heavy work had really locked the lower part of the chuck to the shaft.
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Harry, thank you...I gather then that you pressed the original assy back on and then Musclechuck'ed it...?

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Yes, I have and it worked well.

I will see if I can find the tread.

Some parts have to be ordered from UK.

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Hi Nick,

found this post in another forum:

Gifkins 1/4 inch collet

Still trying to locate the post in Router Forums....

Found it....

http://www.routerforums.com/lobby/44...ton-chuck.html

I did buy the chuck described in this post and changed the TRA001 to take the newer collets.

I had since added a Musclechuk to both routers...

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Harry, thank you...I gather then that you pressed the original assy back on and then Musclechuck'ed it...?

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Spot on, except that it is screwed on and when the router is fully raised the locking pin protrudes into the lower half of the chuck. What I finally did was, whilst it was locked above the table I drilled and threaded the shaft, then I screwed in a bolt then lowered the router until the locking pin had retracted, then, with a spanner on the bolt, from memory I gripped the lower chuck with slip joint pliers and turned them in opposite directions. Screwing it back on was the easy part. A MUSCLECHUCK really is the way to go, in the past I've been known to give a personal money back guarantee but so far my money is safe. I do assure you that I have no connection with the company concerned, it's just a matter of routing being my thing, I found this invention to be a major breakthrough in routing technology.

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Harry / James...thank you so much for the additional education and references to other posts and literature.

Based on the additional reading I see now, Harry, why you drilled and tapped the shaft...something had to hold it still...I gather then that you have the original lower chuck and a Musclechuck.

And James, you upgraded your chuck to the newer version and THEN went for the Musclechuck...?

I was also surprised that several people in the threads I've read seem to feel the collet design is flawed. I don't recall reading specific cause for that however.

Before I order the Musclechuck I need to make one more check of the chuck...I will mic the chuck to make sure it has not expanded at the tapered end. I would hate to order the Musclechuck only to find I have to replace the chuck anyway.

Thanks again...Nick

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