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I'd like to ask about the Ridgid R22002 router from Home Depot. Is it a solid router choice?

Feature wise and cost wise, this router looks like it will have the stuff I think I want on a fixed router for freehand use, with LED lights (I've become convinced a router must have these in freehand work), comfortable palmable grips, not just round knobs, and ease of height adjustment. Until today, I didn't know it included the vac attachment, so I wasn't all that interested since it is a HD exclusive, and getting accessories seemed it might be a hassle. The Bosch MRF23EVS I have been wanting does not come with a vac port either, and they must be bought separately. Adding that up, it is a bit more costly than the Ridgid, although the trigger handle is a very nice feature that I would love to have. I really don't like the design of the vac attachment on the Bosch though, the way it surrounds the bit. Since the Ridgid seems it already comes with all I'd need then it seems the better choice for me. An edge guide would be nice but I could make that if truly desired, and they're limited anyway. After a certain distance inward, I'd just have to clamp a guide down separately so why not all the time? Seems this router was once available as a combo also. I already have a light duty Task Force plunge router, and a Craftsman combo that I'd just leave set up as a plunge since its fixed base is a hassle to adjust, so I don't need the plunge base either.

Maybe I am wrong but I just think I'd like the feel of a fixed base router over a plunge for general freehand work when plowing out dadoes or forming edges. Just seems to me I'm more in control when using one with a jig or edge guide as opposed to a plunge model, even though I can do the same job with a plunge. I'm just trying to streamline my work and make things simple and easy. This is why I am looking for a router that has ergonomic grips, easy to turn on and off, easy to adjust (my Craftsman is a chore in the fixed base but easy in the plunge base, I'd just leave it set up as a plunge only for mortises and signs). The Bosch 1617EVS seems to be everything I'd want in a table router, even considering the vac port that I must buy separately for it also, but the lack of LED lights, and the presence of those slightly oversized wooden grips, and a black sub base instead of clear, just makes it not to my liking for freehand use. The grips seems slightly too large, and they scare me too. When I turn my Craftsman off now I must do a stretch with my thumb to hit the switch while still holding the live router. My grip is not what it once was, and I have had the router spin in my hands and point the spinning bit at my chest at times. Sometimes I just let go on one grip to turn it off which is also dangerous. The Bosch 1617 would likely be worse for me with those knobs. The Ridgid has a similar switch design but the grips make all the difference.

I suppose this post was more about me clearing my head on this than it was about questions. If anyone knows of a known issue on the Ridgid, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Besides what I listed, I can think of several other maybe insignificant reasons that it seems like a good choice to me. Maybe even for the table also.

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I've looked at the Rigid trim router at HD and it seems like it might be a decent tool but I just haven't heard enough feedback about Rigid tools yet to be sure how they rate against other brands. Although the Bosch has some features you don't like and is missing some you want I'm sure it at least the equal to the Rigid and is likely superior to it. I also don't know how Rigid's parts and customer service rate but Bosch's is #1.

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I've looked at the Rigid trim router at HD and it seems like it might be a decent tool but I just haven't heard enough feedback about Rigid tools yet to be sure how they rate against other brands. Although the Bosch has some features you don't like and is missing some you want I'm sure it at least the equal to the Rigid and is likely superior to it. I also don't know how Rigid's parts and customer service rate but Bosch's is #1.
break it down into two simple columns...

C-1 the tool...
C-2 the company behind the tool...

Bosch...
C-1.. outstanding proven work horses in the commercial environment...
repairable after decades of use...
excellent value...
C-2.. Decades of proven outstanding pro-customer quality service...

Rigid...
C-1.. mediocre to poor commercial environment track record...
C-2.. IMO... Home Depot sucks...

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Hi Duane

I have had my Rigid combo kit for about 2 years now and I love it. It is very versatile and very flexible to do what I need to do. I use the plunge base for all of my free hand stuff and have the fixed base mounted permanently under my shop made table using a Kreg plate.

I did a bunch of reading including everything I could get my hands on this forum and came to the conclusion that this was the way to go.

I have not run into any performance issues or maintenance issues with it(other than losing the locking lever on the plunge base and a replacement part is on its way).

I live in Canada and do not have a shop in the true sense of the word I have to bring my stuff out of my shop/shed and work outdoors under my carport so I maybe get 4 months of good weather to play each year so I am still getting use to it but I have done several projects using it most of the time

I like the LED light too

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Thank you all for the responses.

Stick and Chuck, I also believe that the Bosch quality is solid. That's why they have been the ones I focused on the most so far. I took another look at this Ridgid yesterday and saw something I had missed before, the vac port being included. Now that I can see how it is made and that I don't have to order one, I got interested in it.

When it comes to a table router, I believe I had decided on a Bosch 1617EVS in spite of its extra costs to set it up just as I want. Yes, I am on a budget, so much that it will take me a while to even get the routers and build the table that I want, but these things have a way of working themselves out for me. I've come a long way in the few years since deciding I wanted to get into woodworking, as far as aquiring tools and an indoor shop.

Anyway, budget aside, I am focusing on the details, the little things that make or break the tool to me. I don't want this post to run on unnecessarily but to show you what I mean; the reasons for the 1617 in a table are precisely the same reasons NOT to use it freehand. First, it has no LED lights. In a table they'd be pointless, and even blinding during bit changing if always on such as with the Bosch MRF23EVS, but freehand the lights are an absolute necessity for me. Second, the need for dual wrenches to change bits. In a table I believe I'd actually like this better than having to hold in a spring loaded spindle lock, especially with the offset wrenches available from Bosch to fit their routers. I can change bits from above the table this way, and even without offset wrenches, just having a long wrench below the table can extend my reach, and since the table supports the router then I don't have to hold it too. The same router loose out on a bench seems it would be a hassle to me with two wrenches. I'd much prefer a spindle lock. Also, things like wooden knobs and a black sub base don't matter in a table, and the vac attachment on the 1617 is made the way I want so its not in the way of me accessing the bit. I've already mentioned before why these things make it not right for freehand usefor me. It's mostly about poor visibility and uncomfortable or even dangerous grips, again, for me (maybe not everybody). Basically it's a lot of small details that make the choice for me........so long as the main points are otherwise as one would expect, build quality, horse power and torque, and so on.

I noticed that the Ridgid router also has things like this as well. Dual wrench bit change option AND spindle lock, making it a good choice in a table or freehand. It also includes a tool for through the table height adjustments, has a good vac port design, and LED lights for freehand use, and they are not the always on type so when I'm changing a bit they won't be blinding. Seems perfect, and cost is actually less than the Bosch 1617 since extra accessories aren't needed. It comes with them all. It's also available locally where I'd have to order either one of the Bosch routers to get them as a fixed base only. I can get the 1617EVSPK combo at Lowe's just 3 miles away but I don't need the plunge base so why pay extra.

Now all that aside, customer service and parts availability I have not considered. I have only had a need for these things a few times in the past, on Craftsman and Kobalt tools, and once on a Harbor Freight air compressor, but each experience has been painless and simple, even on the HF compressor. Parts were easy to get, came in a timely manner, and customer service was good. Is Home Depot really that bad? They surely wouldn't be worse than Harbor Freight, would they?

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Duane, like Don, I also have the Ridgid router. And have had it for about 6 or 7 years. I use it in and out of a router table. I have had no problems with it at all. It's been a work horse. I built a whole set of kitchen cabinets, a vanity, and many many other things with it. I even, back when I was pretty much a rookie with it (and the router was new), I left a fillup screw driver in the spindle whole (instead of using the two wrenches), and I turned it on, and it made an horrendous noise. I thought for sure I killed my brand new router. Took the screwdriver out and it worked just fine. No new noises or anything. And it's been working ever since.

And all new Ridgid tools, come with a lifetime warranty. Just make sure you send in the barcode from the box, and a copy of your receipt. And Register it online. I also own a Ridgid trim router, that is awesome!! A Ridgid miter saw, Ridgid shop vac (I use for dust control), a Ridgid sander and a cordless drill. I love them all. They are all registered and none have had to be repaired. So what I'm saying is, I don't think you will go wrong if you decide to get one!!
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Duane, here's a few pics of my Ridgid router at work.

First one is it perched in the table. Second one is making signs (which I made over 20 of them two Christmas' ago.) And the last is building a latter. This was my first project with the new router. The project I thought I'd found a better way to change tools---NOT.. But she kept going and going...
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Duane, like Don, I also have the Ridgid router. And have had it for about 6 or 7 years. I use it in and out of a router table. I have had no problems with it at all. It's been a work horse. I built a whole set of kitchen cabinets, a vanity, and many many other things with it. I even, back when I was pretty much a rookie with it (and the router was new), I left a fillup screw driver in the spindle whole (instead of using the two wrenches), and I turned it on, and it made an horrendous noise. I thought for sure I killed my brand new router. Took the screwdriver out and it worked just fine. No new noises or anything. And it's been working ever since.

And all new Ridgid tools, come with a lifetime warranty. Just make sure you send in the barcode from the box, and a copy of your receipt. And Register it online. I also own a Ridgid trim router, that is awesome!! A Ridgid miter saw, Ridgid shop vac (I use for dust control), a Ridgid sander and a cordless drill. I love them all. They are all registered and none have had to be repaired. So what I'm saying is, I don't think you will go wrong if you decide to get one!!
Yes, I read these things about the Ridgid tools you own last night when I did a search on this site about the router. A post you made back in 2011 came up. Thanks for posting now though. I'm trying to do as much research prior to making a purchase as I can, and so far this router is at the top of my list, feature wise. It seems on paper and through reviews to be there in terms of power and build quality as well. You said you built an entire set of cabinets with yours. Does this include spinning raised panel bits also? Because I am looking for a router to go in a table as well as freehand use. This Ridgid appears to be made just right for both jobs.
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Listen to Stick. You're not really comparing apples to apples. You're basically comparing lemons to apples. Rigid has their warranty but all the hoops are a PITA. Bosch has customer
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Listen to Stick. You're not really comparing apples to apples. You're basically comparing lemons to apples. Rigid has their warranty but all the hoops are a PITA. Bosch has customer
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