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I'd like to get a centering cone for my sub bases. I guess it's only really important for when I'd use guide bushings. I think as long as my bit clears then it doesn't matter as much otherwise, but I want one anyway. My router did not come with one. I know DeWalt makes one, and I just went on the servicenet.dewalt.com site to look for them, and it appears it is sold in two pieces, the cone and a separate shaft. Anyone know if this is correct? I didn't see a picture to know, just a parts list and I want to be sure to understand it.

Also, this might be the dumbest question of all, but I see other brands of these and they only suggest their own brand models as units that they work with. In my head, a 1/4 or 1/2 inch collet is all the same as far as diameter, so why wouldn't a Bosch brand centering cone work with a DeWalt router? Any reason for me to think it might not? DeWalt even sells one just for its trim router, but I don't even see why that one wouldn't work on the larger routers also, with the 1/4 collet that is.

Also, I'd like an edge guide. Not a complicated one with moving parts. Just a simple one like what the Craftsman routers come with. Folded sheet metal with two rods, and thumb screws to hold it on. Any ideas where to get this? I wonder, will the ones that come with the Craftsman fit the DeWalt also?

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Duane, all I can answer is about the cone and shaft. My Ridgid did come with a cone and a separate shaft. So it is very possible that's how Dewalt's come too. Except you have to buy there's separate.
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Duane; sorry, but your assumptions re the edge guide are wrong. The purpose of the edgeguide is to allow you to accurately control the front-to-back depth of cut. That thumbscrew allows the user to make micro adjustments, and in most cases to actually read off the amount of movement, and return to the previous setting.

The locking screws on the shafts are there to allow for a coarse setup adjustment.
Also some of the edgeguides also permit you to cut circles using a centre pivot.
Please reconsider what you might want to do with your handheld operations.
I use my Bosch edge guide...the one pictured... a lot!
I can't imagine trying to use it without the micro adjuster.
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Does anyone have a part number for the screws that hold the edge guide bars to the base of the DW618 router? I think I found it but I'm not sure. I've got part # 326573-01. My owner's manual doesn't show a list of part numbers, and since my router didn't come with these parts I have to figure everything out from scratch to set it up like I want it.

Is this something that cannot just be bought at Lowe's in the special parts and hardware drawers?

DaninVan, now you made me think just a little harder. Maybe I do want one more like that Bosch. I originally wanted just a simple edge guide because I always set up my mortises with the bit touching a mark on the wood, then slide in the guide and lock it down, with no complexity beyond that This is simple, but almost always has to be readjusted, sometimes several times, before it's right on. If the more complex guides could be locked on and then adjusted to the line with a knob to fine tune the cut position, and this operation be simple to perform, then I'd be interested in one. I am having to learn everything about these tools on my own with no one to teach me other than people I meet online, so please forgive my ignorance. I just thought the adjustable edge guides would be heavy compared to the solid ones, and also complicating the adjustments needlessly in an attempt to offer gimmicky features and sell a product, but of course, I say this without ever having tried one.

Also, does that edge guide only work with the Bosch, or will it fit others? In the store, the Bosch 1617 and DeWalt DW618 seem to have the same span for the bars of an edge guide.

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Duane I'm sure that you are not the only person who has asked these questions nor are you necessarily the only person who is waiting to see what answers are given. 1/4" and 1/2" are standard measures. Any centering devices will fit. My Hitachis came with a centering rod that is 1/4" on one end and 1/2" on the other. The advantage with the cone shaped one is that it will center any bushing where the one I have has to be used with a 1/4" or 1/2" ID bushing which just centers the base or bushing adapter.

As far as edge guides go some of them will interchange I know but I'm not sure which ones and getting the rod diameter and hole spacing is somewhere between difficult and impossible from the makers. You would probably have better luck finding what interchanges if you can find an aftermarket maker.

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Duane; we're here to help!
In fact the Bosch one I previously attached a pic of isn't particularly heavy. Some type of alloy I guess.
Charles just brought up a good point re the centering cones. Here's an explanation of it's use. I say interesting, because there was a recent discussion here re the sequence of events to properly centre the baseplate and the bushings. I think there had been a misunderstanding re the sequence.

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Bosch RA1150 Centering Cone

Your explanation of the mortise or dado application of the edge guide is spot on...precisely why the micro adjuster is so valuable .
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Hi Duane

According to deWalt the DW618 uses the DW6913 fence, which has a fine adjuster built-in, just like the Bosch guide that Dan showed. I'm familiar with the fence because it's the same one supplied with the DW615, DW621/DW622 and some DW625 plunge routers in the EU. That particular fence is compatible with most of the current DW routers, e.g. DW615, DW618, DW621, DW622, DW624, DW625 and DW626 and has centres for both the larger 10mm rod machines (DW624/625/626) and the smaller 8mm rod machines (the others). The DW site in the USA confirms this. That in turn makes it compatible with the Bosch (Europe models, known US equivalents in parantheses) GOF900, GOF1250, GOF1300, GOF/GMF1600 (MR23VCS), GOF1700 (1615VS) and GOF2000 (1619EVS) routers.

Your DW should use metric M6 x 17 thumbscrews to hold the rods in the base, DW referemce 326573-01. There's nothing stopping you from using metric M6 machine screws, though, or any equivalent product from a third party. The rods are 8mm diameter but longer/shorter/special rods can always be made-up from lengths of 8mm (5/16in is near enough) silver steel rod from a supply house.

Like Dan I find the micro adjustable side fence very useful and I wouldn'y be without it. Over here, though, the plunge router is king and every manufacturer supplies their routers with the side fence in the box when new

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Does anyone have a part number for the screws that hold the edge guide bars to the base of the DW618 router? I think I found it but I'm not sure. I've got part # 326573-01.
Sure looks like it (See this link)
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Duane, You might want to look at the Mpower combination router base(CRB7) at eagleamerica.com. It say it will fit any router and seems to do alot of different operations. It may be available other placeses also. Wayne
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Duane you can get the centering cone and 1/4 inch shaft from Lee Valley. They will work in any model of router.
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