router bits? - Router Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 10
 
Default router bits?

I am looking for suggestions on some budget, but quality router bits.

I need something fairly heavy duty as I will be cutting through mdf, which seams to me to be fairly hard on the bits. I will be doing alot of cutting with a 1/4 inch bit, and then maybe a 1/2 inch or larger flush trim bit. Something that can handle a fair amount of material. Other than that I will be looking for a 1/2" round, and 45 degree bit. And that is about all I have use for at the moment.



I dont exactly have a budget, because I dont know what it will cost to get decent stuff. The best band for the buck bits will probably suit me well.

Any recommendations?
sphynx_000 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 06:43 PM
Retired Moderator
 
challagan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,126
 
Default

I take it you will want to get them in one spot and not be running around. The Home Depots and other stores like that most likely won't have all the stuff you want, especially spiral bits if you need one. Check out MLCS, very good prices and free shipping and as good as quality as any.
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/

Not sure exactly what you are doing but you will want to take care of the bits as you use them and not over heat them.. any bit. MDF will really heat them up and its hard on bits so take multiple passes and let them cool off. For a 1/4 bit I think a spiral should work well in the mdf.

Corey

My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver
http://iowacarver.tripod.com/
challagan is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 10
 
Default

I mostly build speaker boxes,

I use a router to countersink and cut circles through 3/4" mdf. I use a circle jig that is calibrated for 1/4 inch bit, but I could go larger if it would make cutting easier/cooler?

The flush trim bit is just for trimming edges on the sides of the box due to uneven cuts.
sphynx_000 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 07:39 PM
Retired Moderator
 
challagan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,126
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sphynx_000
I mostly build speaker boxes,

I use a router to countersink and cut circles through 3/4" mdf. I use a circle jig that is calibrated for 1/4 inch bit, but I could go larger if it would make cutting easier/cooler?

The flush trim bit is just for trimming edges on the sides of the box due to uneven cuts.
I am sure our member Bj will have something to add here. His son does that same work all day long with routers. I know he is using some particular bits that he says works well. If I remember right he is using 1/4 spirals for the bulk of the hold cutting.

Corey

My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver
http://iowacarver.tripod.com/
challagan is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 10
 
Default

upcut or downcut for a hand router?

and for the flush trim bit, im guesing the larger diameter the better? Maybe I should step up to a 3/4" flush trim bit?

Last edited by sphynx_000; 09-03-2007 at 07:43 PM.
sphynx_000 is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 07:51 PM
Retired Moderator
 
challagan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,126
 
Default

Downcuts for hand held router, upcut for the router table.

From MLCS some info on spirals:

2 flute flat bottom cutters. Top quality micrograin solid carbide. Will cut faster, smoother and stays sharper longer. Produces a very clean, fast and accurate cut with minimal chatter. Upcut spiral helps remove material. Ideal for making mortise and tenon joints. Downcut spirals help hold the material in place while using handheld routers. Will plunge cut and plane edges. Eliminates chipping at the top of the cut. Ideal for soft & hard woods, plywoods & composites, laminates, plastics and some non-ferrous metals.

Spiral Page:
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...al_down_anchor

Check out the 1/4 spiral flush trim... seems like a good choice for your work.

Corey

My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver
http://iowacarver.tripod.com/

Last edited by challagan; 09-03-2007 at 07:53 PM.
challagan is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 10
 
Default

That all sounds good to me. I am going to wait and hopefully "Bj" will chime in before I buy anything.
sphynx_000 is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 11:30 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: United States
First Name: Bj
Posts: 23,786
       
Default

Hi sphynx_000

Corey is right on the button,,,they only thing I would add is if you are doing alot of MDF you may want to get the trim bit below..

Spiral Flush Trim Router Bit
and the
Compression Up/Down Spiral Router Bit

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...ushtrim_anchor



=============

Quote:
Originally Posted by sphynx_000
That all sounds good to me. I am going to wait and hopefully "Bj" will chime in before I buy anything.


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	bits.jpg
Views:	49
Size:	55.2 KB
ID:	7742  


"It's fine to disagree with other members as long as you respect their opinions"

Marc Sommerfeld Tools ,Videos
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT-n...RWaEpMA/videos

Find all threads started by bobj3
http://www.routerforums.com/search.php?searchid=944097


bobj3 is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 11:43 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 10
 
Default

The spiral trim bit is a little expensive, but if its worth it, then so be it.

For the easiest cut, would it be best to go with a 1/4 or 1/2 flush trim bit. And how about for a straight cut bit?

unfortunately I dont think the compression up/down spiral bit will work for me because I will also be using the bit for countersinking and need a flat bottom.

Also, what do you think about the TripleWing bits?

Last edited by sphynx_000; 09-04-2007 at 12:06 AM.
sphynx_000 is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-04-2007, 12:01 AM
Forum Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: United States
First Name: Bj
Posts: 23,786
       
Default

Hi sphynx_000

The 1/4" one works a bit better but it's not as hvy. duty as the 1/2" one..it's a mass thing..

The 1/4" one is quicker because you are not removing as much stock as the 1/2" one...and the 1/4" one will wear out b/4 the 1/2" one..

I'm now on my 4th or 5th 1/4" ones and still using the 1/2" one that I got all about the same time..the MDF is hard on bits and will dull them quick...and many times you want to make the cut with one pass that's when the 1/2" one comes into play...

"Also, what do you think about the TripleWing bits? and 1/4 vs 1/2 inch shanks?"

I like to use 1/2" bits over 1/4" ones BUT sometimes the job calls for the 1/4" bit...
TripleWing bits?= I like them they last longer,one extra cutting blade to do the work, less ware and tear thing, and they are a bit safer than the standard bits... (2 wing type/two cutters)

====================
Quote:
Originally Posted by sphynx_000
The spiral trim bit is a little expensive, but if its worth it, then so be it.

Would you recommend I get the 1/4 or 1/2 inch. Either size would be ok for what im doing, just wondering which would cut better?, ... im guessing the 1/2 inch?

unfortunately I dont think the compression up/down spiral bit will work for me because I will also be using the bit for countersinking and need a flat bottom.

Also, what do you think about the TripleWing bits? and 1/4 vs 1/2 inch shanks?



"It's fine to disagree with other members as long as you respect their opinions"

Marc Sommerfeld Tools ,Videos
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT-n...RWaEpMA/videos

Find all threads started by bobj3
http://www.routerforums.com/search.php?searchid=944097



Last edited by bobj3; 09-04-2007 at 12:09 AM.
bobj3 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Router my way reible General Routing 21 12-08-2018 12:06 PM
Motorized Router Lift - Eagle Lake Style johnwnixon Table-mounted Routing 14 05-23-2012 05:51 PM
Already Problems neuschu New Member Introductions 11 12-15-2009 08:01 AM
RouterForums.com and Oak-Park.com - September 2006 Contest - VOTING STAGE!! Mark Contests Archive 13 11-05-2006 03:23 AM
RouterForums.com and Oak-Park.com - September 2006 Contest!! Mark Contests Archive 72 10-01-2006 01:02 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome