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I have a lot of Harbor Freight Tools, and for the most part, if you do not exceed their obvious limitations, they work fairly well for a hobby shop.

This 91130 Router Table is a glaring exception. I made this video to explain why. After only 12 SECONDS of use, while using the machine for the first time, the machine began belching smoke, and flames, and I had to disassemble it to discover why.

The mental giants at 'Central Machinery' designed a router table, with an ENCLOSED chamber around the collet and bit, so the chips have nowhere to go!

The plastic chips were dropping down into the chamber, and clotting up. The lump of hot plastic rolled around the collet nut like bread dough in a dough machine, until the machine could not overpower the plastic wad. It bogged down, and the plastic caught fire from being buzzed by the nut at (n) RPMs.

I contacted HFT and advised them to RECALL these machines, as I believe they are a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I am not even sure the problem can be corrected, using the current router that is supplied. The solid metal mount would need large holes cut into it, and then I am not sure how the height adjustment would even work, as well as not knowing if the router would remain stable.

I am going to toss the router and use the table with an older craftsman router I have. The table is okay for small projects, but the router and the mount are a disaster.


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get a refund...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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I contacted HFT and advised them to RECALL these machines, as I believe they are a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Joe, thanks for the U-tube safety warning. Have you heard from Harbor Freight?

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I bought the table over two years ago and set it up. This is the first time I have actually plugged it in, mounted a bit, and tried it.

The problem of the chips clotting around the arbor surfaced immediately. I read the product reviews on the HFT site, and most of the people had the same complaints about smoke and fire from the machine early on. Most people thought the smoke and fire was from the motor, but only one other person bothered to investigate deep enough to find the true cause of the problem, which is a deep cup around the bit, with NO way for the chips to exit. It is a very poor design.

I told HFT that they need to recall these machines before someone's shop burns down. It is just a matter of time until a clump of varnished wood chips catch fire and then you know what will happen.

I know the manager of my local store, and he has already offered to replace the machine, which is nice, but that does not solve the problem. The machine still works fine at the moment. It isn't that it was damaged. It is that it is poorly designed. It is just that you cannot do any serious routing with it, and it is inherently dangerous to use.

It is the weekend, so I am sure HFT will contact me this week. I'm going to make sure they are aware of the ACTUAL problem. They have been replacing the machines, and telling people to buy the protection plan, but regardless of which 91130 router table a person uses, the fire hazard still exists. It is built into the design!
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get a refund...
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I am not concerned about a refund. I am concerned about someone's shop going up in flames. These routers need to be RECALLED.
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I really am a hobby woodworker and bring retired with limited income I purchase a lot of Harbor Freight tools. I have just about "re-engineered” just about every stationary power tool that I have ever purchased from them.
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Joe; just a suggestion, but you might have a face to face chat with the Fire Prevention Officer (or Chief in a smaller town) at your local FD. They'd have some insight into how to force the recall.
Just out of curiosity, is there a UL stamp on it? Sounds like you might have a similar problem to our Canadian CSA situation...
(How could a design fault that serious not be noticed by a testing agency? Unless of course it wasn't tested in a table.)
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Stick,

I am not concerned about a refund. I am concerned about someone's shop going up in flames. These routers need to be RECALLED.
most know that HF tools are a crap shoot, long term expensive, can be dangerous....

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Yesterday had a HF 1/2" drill go west on me. Was using it with a hook to open and close an Awning with an eye to rotate the gears. The drill started up full speed and locked so that it wouldn't stop. I was on a stepladder ,grabbed the cord as the drill wrenched out of my hand, hit the edge of the roof and backed the hook out of the chuck and fell. Couldn't yank the cord out of the socket as it was down by the deck floor. Finally got my wife to come unplug it. Nuff said about HF power tools.
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Yesterday had a HF 1/2" drill go west on me. Was using it with a hook to open and close an Awning with an eye to rotate the gears. The drill started up full speed and locked so that it wouldn't stop. I was on a stepladder ,grabbed the cord as the drill wrenched out of my hand, hit the edge of the roof and backed the hook out of the chuck and fell. Couldn't yank the cord out of the socket as it was down by the deck floor. Finally got my wife to come unplug it. Nuff said about HF power tools.
You used a Harbor Freight Tool ... while standing on a LADDER?!!!

Back in the 70's, you would have starred on the TV series "Thrill Seeker!"
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