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Default Excalibur #40-200 │ Deluxe router table kit (Floor model)

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Many forum members ask about router lifts and we get a lot of inquiries about cast iron router tables. I have kept my eyes open and spotted this model that I thought was worth reviewing.

General International offers the Excalibur router lift and deluxe cast iron table as a set with several options. Cast iron is best in a climate controlled shop; a phenolic table top and an MDF table top are available for those who have shops that are not climate controlled. The Excalibur router lift is available as a separate unit too. This first post is a "get acquainted" look at the deluxe kit.

From the top the Excalibur lift looks similar to most router lifts. Flip it over and the difference is obvious. The motor mount is attached to four screw posts and is raised/lowered like many thickness planers. The motor mount accepts the PC 7518 and the Portamate 3-1/4 hp routers as is. The Milwaukee 5625-20 requires the flat shim shown at the top of photo 4. The two sleeve adapters allow 3-1/4" and 3-1/2" diameter motors to fit. This is the majority of fixed base routers in circulation.

The table has both a 3/4" miter T slot and a smaller T slot for attaching clamps, feather boards, etc.. The mobility kit and leveling feet are included. The steel motor enclosure has an adjustable vent and a combination 2-1/2" into 4" dust port. A hose and clamps are included to reach the fence dust port. The fence has enough unique features that it will be covered in a separate post.

Over the next couple of weeks I will take photos of the set up process and different routing tasks using the table and lift.
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Mike this lift s basically what gave me the idea to build a router table that I can raise and lower . I bought sprockets and 1" threaded rod to mimic what General did with there lift .
I had ordered that lift at one time but changed m mind before it got here .

Never understood how it locks once you set the height so I went with Incra

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Mike I did not see a link to the distributor, do post one or PM it to me, I am getting a machine delvered to me fromt eh USA in a few weeks and this would fit inside the crate, nice looking lift. N
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Thanks, Mike.
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Thanks Mike!

Couldn't be more timely. I just ordered my system yesterday, though I did buy only the parts required, as I intend to build a router cabinet. As such, I was able to save about $225 over the discount price of $1250, though I see these around at $1500 as well. I did not get the dust collection or the table, so I figure that will cover my cost of materials and hardware for the router cabinet. I need the storage....badly. I'm busting out at the seams everywhere, and will probably build some new shop cabs in the next month to help out. I have an incra system that I like a lot too, though I don't really use the many fine features of that unit, which the fence system provides for. I usually hand cut dovetails, for drawer boxes, etc. Also, the frame system for the Incra unit is why I want build my own router cabinet....finally....and the cast iron top allows for a smaller footprint as well by about ten inches. I look forward to seeing your pics in the coming days, and get a leg up on the build. Much appreciated!
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One member bought this system and had issues with the cast table not lining up well with the lift . He got it resolved I believe many weeks later , and they were helpful in addressing the issue ,but it made me cancel mine .
I'm looking forward to your review Mike as I have a lot of GI tools

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Table not lining up well with the lift Rick? That does not make any sense to me. The lift fits securely into the table opening and there are enough levelers for the entire planet; locating screws to fasten the lift down if desired too. (I have yet to see a lift float away. )

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Table not lining up well with the lift Rick? That does not make any sense to me. The lift fits securely into the table opening and there are enough levelers for the entire planet; locating screws to fasten the lift down if desired too. (I have yet to see a lift float away. )

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Here ya go

http://www.routerforums.com/table-mo...-not-flat.html

On page 4 he gets some resolve . Sounds like they may have retooled the system because of his findings

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The Excalibur manager swapped out my cast iron table at no cost to me, and we reinstalled my Porter Cable router in the Excalibur lift. However, we once again could not get the lift plate flush with the cast iron table top. We were perplexed by the situation to say the least. The manager took my lift back to General to analyze what was going on.

It turns out that our inability to get the lift plate flush with the cast iron top was due to two problems. What we didn't understand initially is that the thick aluminum lift plate was being distorted out-of-flat by 0.006" by the hardware mounting the router motor to the lift. I observed a 0.011" step up from the cast iron top to the lift plate at one corner. I thought this step up was solely due to an out-of-flat cast iron top, but I was wrong. The cast iron top was not flat, but likely was within an acceptable tolerance--my cast iron top probably did not need to be replaced! My step up was due to the additive effect of a slightly out-of-flat cast iron top and a slightly out-of-flat aluminum lift plate. Each deviation is probably within the limits of acceptability, but when the two deviations are added together, the end result is not acceptable. My case was unique in that these deviations were additive, and I am not the type of person to overlook them. For other owners of this tool, the deviations may have been subtractive essentially canceling out each other. Excalibur has determined the root of the lift plate deviation which I will not detail since it is quite technical. Nevertheless Excalibur, has changed the router lift assembly at the factory to minimize the likelihood of other users encountering this problem. They are also re-writing the instruction manual recommending a more accurate technique for installing the router motor in the lift. If anyone else has similar issues, Excalibur should be able to help without a significant downtime for the end user.

Excalibur was with me every step of the way, and their commitment to getting this problem solved has been simply spectacular.
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