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Hi guys,
I guess I am a rare one who does not own a TS or RAS, to use a dado blade with, so I was impressed with Bob and Rick's tandem mounted slot cutters, in a router, that produced a quick and easy way to cut a 1/4" tenon in 3/4" stock. Here is my problem. The slot cutters I see only have a maximum depth of 1/2". I would think what I saw on the RWS cut a bit deeper than that. I looked up OP catalog and they only list a single slot cutter with a 1/4" shank, but do not specify the depth of cut. I e-mailed their info desk to see if what Bob & Rick used is available, since I don't see it elsewhere. Has anyone out there experimented with this method?
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Hi JoeZ

I think you are talking about the one below ..

Tenon Cutter at 124.95 Creates a 1" x 1/4" wide tenon
http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=RBIT-MTB-


I was also impressed with Bob and Rick's way BUT the bit was just a bit high in price for me and it takes a very special fence and sled to use the bit the same way,, I did make the sled with a hold down device and the fence under plate..
If you hit the View Gallery on the left side of this post you will see the sled I posted.

So the bottom line is it's not the cheap way to go.

You will spend over 175.oo doing the same way...
If you want to see how I did do it just ask and I will pull up the pictures
It takes a Horz.router setup...but it can do many more jobs than just put on tenons..

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Bob J,
Thanks, as usual, you have the info. I agree that the tenon cutter, advertised by OP, is way too high in price for me. I may have another solution in that I have a Katana 1/4" T & G set that cuts a 1/2" depth. It looks like if I put in a smaller diameter bearing or brass bushing I could increase the depth of cut. I don't want to go deeper than 3/4". The "special fence" I will make out of a piece of 2 X 3, a piece of 1 X 3 X 3/4 poplar and the fence & sled bases from the old reliable poly cutting board. My main concern is how safe will it be to reduce the diameter size of the bearing?
Any thoughts anyone? Thanks.
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Hi Joe

Just take off the bearing and just use the fence..

That will do the job.. it will be right at 3/4" deep ..
use the nut to setup the bit right off one of the corners of the nut not the flats of the nut or it may hang up on the board and knock it free .
Stack up small OD washers to replace the bearing..you should have some on your other bits that you can use for this job...

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Below you well see a quick jig you can make to take the other router bits down to get the washers off without putting a hurt on the bits.
Just slip in the bit and clamp it up in the vise and remove the nut or screw.

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Bob J,
Thanks, as usual, you have the info. I agree that the tenon cutter, advertised by OP, is way too high in price for me. I may have another solution in that I have a Katana 1/4" T & G set that cuts a 1/2" depth. It looks like if I put in a smaller diameter bearing or brass bushing I could increase the depth of cut. I don't want to go deeper than 3/4". The "special fence" I will make out of a piece of 2 X 3, a piece of 1 X 3 X 3/4 poplar and the fence & sled bases from the old reliable poly cutting board. My main concern is how safe will it be to reduce the diameter size of the bearing?
Any thoughts anyone? Thanks.
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Thanks again Bob,
I am going to disassemble the tongue portion of the T & G set and see exactly what has to be done. I was under the impression that the bearing is what held the two slot cutters apart at the correct spacing. I just may take a large nut, drill out the threads to slide over the mandrel and gring the edges of the nut to a round. Gee, just commenting back and forth with you has stirred up some of the gray matter I have left. If and when I work on this and get to my outdoor shop (backyard in warm weather) I will let you know how I made out. Might even learn how to post pictures by then also.
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Hi Joe
That will work but use a SMALL nut and drill it out, it can't have a bigger OD than 1/2" use a 5/16" nut it will work...
then maybe one washer to get the space just right for the T & G bit..

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Thanks again Bob,
I am going to disassemble the tongue portion of the T & G set and see exactly what has to be done. I was under the impression that the bearing is what held the two slot cutters apart at the correct spacing. I just may take a large nut, drill out the threads to slide over the mandrel and gring the edges of the nut to a round. Gee, just commenting back and forth with you has stirred up some of the gray matter I have left. If and when I work on this and get to my outdoor shop (backyard in warm weather) I will let you know how I made out. Might even learn how to post pictures by then also.
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You could use the Magnate 2704 1-1/4" surface planing bit. It takes a little more setup (since you'll have to flip the stock over), but for the price it is an awesome cutter. You'll need to back the stock up to prevent tear out.

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Doug,
Thank you also. This forum really show that there is more than one way to skin a cat (no offense to animal lovers or big D-8 owners). I just may get that surface planer bit (can't have too many bits as Bob would say). May not use it for this application, but hey you never know when it will come in handy.
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BobJ, Doug and all,

Boy did I find a cheap solution for what I wanted. I e-mailed the people at MLCS and explained what I was looking for, but did not see it in their catalog as a single item. They responded by offering to construct one for me for $34.00. The only proviso was that the deepest it would cut is 5/8". I can live with that and it should serve my purpose unless someone can alert me to why I must have a deeper tenon going into stock that is 2-1/2". With free shipping, it came to my door in two days. Can't beat that.

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Hi Joe

Can't beat that

http://www.routerworkshop.com/adjusttenon.html


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