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I can get a Bosch 1617EVS with the plain base through the orange big box store for $156.89, shipped to my local store so I can pick it up or even shipped to my home.

But just a 16176 router motor only (no base at all) is $159 to $169 all over the interwebs.

Doesn't make a bit of sense. I only need the motor to put on the CNC I'm going to order. I guess I'll be getting a base for it too. Who knows? It may come in handy if I get in a pinch.

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All the extra effort involved in prepping a unique product for market to fill a relatively small niche.
Packaging, marketing, stock sitting in Bosch's warehouses rather than on the shelf in the Big Box or Amazon's warehouse...no quantity discounting in that scenario.
Bosch has to be deeply discounting the 1617EVSPK package; that's the only logical explanation.
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Doesn't make a bit of sense. I only need the motor to put on the CNC I'm going to order. I guess I'll be getting a base for it too. Who knows? It may come in handy if I get in a pinch.
I have a fixed base attached to a flush trim jig. Ready for action in a moments notice. Just stick the motor in and go.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
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I paid more than that for a motor only. Good deal. Maybe you could put the base in a fold down table for quickie stuff?
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I saw the same thing Scott when I was looking for just a motor. I wanted to have another motor so that I did not to keep switching from table to plunge. Now I have hand held fixed/plunge
and table mounted. You could always put the base on E-bay.

A similar scenario with copper refrigeration fittings. HVAC measures OD of copper tubing. Plumbing measures ID. My father could buy 7/8" copper fittings cheaper than 3/4" fittings.
He asked why.The explanation was that the 7/8" fittings were mass produced to supply plumbing, and HVAC. The 3/4" fittings were an oddball size that was produced only for HVAC markets.

Makes sense Dan.
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I can get a Bosch 1617EVS with the plain base through the orange big box store for $156.89, shipped to my local store so I can pick it up or even shipped to my home.

But just a 16176 router motor only (no base at all) is $159 to $169 all over the interwebs.

Doesn't make a bit of sense. I only need the motor to put on the CNC I'm going to order. I guess I'll be getting a base for it too. Who knows? It may come in handy if I get in a pinch.
Same story buying a "bare" PC motor, that's why I have a spare fixed base sitting here.
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All the extra effort involved in prepping a unique product for market to fill a relatively small niche.
Packaging, marketing, stock sitting in Bosch's warehouses rather than on the shelf in the Big Box or Amazon's warehouse...no quantity discounting in that scenario.
Bosch has to be deeply discounting the 1617EVSPK package; that's the only logical explanation.
I suppose this is correct.

I once had a boss that said he could "prove on paper" that it was cheaper to make one of our parts out of 8.5" dia steel vs. the 5.25" stock that we had been making them out of for years. This was a key component to a core catcher used for capturing cores when directional drilling for oil & gas. Almost everything we made was was from a modified 4140 chrome moly steel alloy and it wasn't cheap. We sourced most of it from West Germany (at the time) and England with most of it being from Sheffield. Not cheap stuff!

His claim was that it was "cheaper" to purchase one size of steel instead of two. At that time our averaged burden rate for for our machines was $107 per hour (averaged for every piece of equipment we had whether it was a plain jane Bridgeport conventional mill, 4 axis CNC horizontal mill, large CNC slant bed lathe, or a 70' long deep hole boring machine). What he was saying is, that it was cheaper to pay more for the steel (price per pound) plus machine the added pounds off and throw it away in chips than to buy the right size to begin with which resulted in fewer pounds and less machining time.

Only accountants and politicians can make this stuff up!
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Well they have to hire a guy to remove the bases, and to sell them separately, which is hard to do, nobody wants a base if they don't have a motor, and the factory is programmed, 1 base- 1 motor, 1 base-1 motor, if they sell motor only,then the conveyor belt gets balled up and the bases are falling off on the floor and they have to be running around picking up bases. what a mess.
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Just glad you are buying a Bosch. Your feedback is also welcome.


Just remember what my father always said, " Half the people in this world are below average!", and everything in life will make a hellova lot more sense.
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Just glad you are buying a Bosch. Your feedback is also welcome.
I'll sure give some when I get it all setup and running.

I picked the Bosch because it gets rave reviews on this site by many, and from what I can gather it is quieter than other models, which is my main focus right now (the quiet). I don't wanna get sideways with the neighbors. I plan on getting a spindle when funds allow, but it's just not in the cards at the moment, so a router it is. I was going to get a Dewalt DW611 but decided to up the power a notch and go with Bosch. My Bosch jigsaw is just spectacular and my reciprocating saw even seems decent even though it's an entry level model.
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