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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-29-2015, 06:40 AM Thread Starter
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hey there all, I have been looking for a while and need some help. I have been told that hp is not all to look for in the power of a router. I want something to be versatile and be a great router for time to come. I have 2 routers that I am eyeballing because of build quality. I don't really like a lot of newer tools because of build quality. I

see an elu mof 96 plunge 220v 2.7 amps which equals about 1 1/4 hp.

Or an Elu /B&D fixed base 2721 120v 9 amps which is 1 1/2 hp.

People rave about Elu but normal convention says more hp is better. Are both going to be good for a beginner? If I can afford both should I do both?

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Welcome Ken. I have not ever seen an Elu router so I won't comment on them. I will say I don't think to many people have them in the USA. I also think for your first router you need more HP maybe 2 1/2 or close to that. I would get a combo router, by that I mean a router that has a fixed base and a plunge base. With a router like that you can do most any kind of router operation except door frames that use big bits. This is a very good company to buy from and to look at routers.

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I would stay away from the 220 volt router simply because the odd voltage limits where you can use it. Before I bought any router, I'd be sure its base is compatible with current jigs and fixtures. Not knowing, I'd guess the collet is 1/4" on the 2721. That would limit your bit options and start you off in the wrong direction. Your collection of bits should be weighted toward 1/2" shank. You will soon have much more invested in bits than routers. I'd advise to not gravitate to the obscure brands. There's lots of good choices from Bosch, Dewalt, Porter Cable and Milwaukee in kits that have both fixed and plunge bases.

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ELU/220v...so you're in Europe...? Elsewhere...?

Your profile says United States...

I would suggest your first router might be better driven by the kind of projects you will be undertaking...

If you are edge profiling (trim, etc...) smaller horsepower will help you develop some skills and confidence...

If you're going straight into raised panels and doors you'll need more hp...2 1/2 plus...

For example, for most edge routing I use a small trim router...couple of them, 1 and 1.5 hp...

If it's easier to do it on the table I use a 2.5 and 3.25 just because they're already mounted in the table.

You could also envision your projects and decide whether you will need smaller shank bits or larger...

Maybe you could describe what you will be doing...lots of experience on the forum and you'll get plenty of advice...

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Welcome to the forum, Ken.

The others are right in their advise. Don't get caught up in the HP. HP is notoriously misstated and is not usually as advertised. Stick with the mid "HP" rated router from the more common makers (Triton, PC, DeWalt, Elu, Bosch, etc.) looking for the features that suit your needs. If you can, physically hold or use what you are interested in before you buy. Buy a combo kit for the versatility and then go from there. You will find that one router will probably not suit all of you needs, and you will eventually add to your stable.

There is a lot of information here on the site pertaining to router buying information. Try doing a search and reading past threads for more information.

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We normally only see UK based members talking about the Elu brand and as pointed out it makes a huge difference if you are EU based or North America based.

Your question about hp is universal however. The horsepower rating given by my most manufacturers is a complex equation that is the maximum power it can produce for an instant in a specific situation. The watts or amps is a much better way to compare them and one manufacturers model that uses say 1200 watts will be very close to equal to another that uses the same amount of energy.

If you only have one router that router should be a plunge model. A plunge can do anything a fixed base can do but the reverse is not true. I would tend to think that either router you are looking at will be a bit small for anything but light duty work but it all depends on what type projects you will be working on. I have a DeWalt 610 that is in that size range and it works fine for bits up to about 1.5" in diameter but I wouldn't want to run much larger than that for an extended period of time. You may want to look at something in the size range of a Bosch 1617 or Hitachi M12VC if this is your only router. Something in this size range would be a bit more versatile perhaps for the long term.
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I am in the US, Chicago specifically. The Fixed base I was looking at is 1/2 inch collet. I found out that Elu routers are the base of all current Dewalts so their parts are available. The Fixed base also is the exact model as the dw610 and its only 60 dollars and it has new bearings.

I am curious as to why location makes a difference though? Is it brands available or performance differences?

Thanks so much
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Europe and the UK are exclusively 220 volts @ 50 hertz.

USA is mostly 110 volts 60 hertz.
Thats why everyone thinks youre in europe.

I would recommend a variable speed router for more versatility. Very wide bits dont work well at high speeds.
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Ah ok I see. The 220 is 50/60hz but that could be an issue I see.
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