Bits stick in chuck - Router Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-13-2005, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3
 
Unhappy Bits stick in chuck

Hi all;

I have an ELU 3339 router (A Europen version of the DeWalt I believe). The trouble that I have with it is that the router bits become stuck in the chuck. I am at wits end trying to figure out just how to get the bits out. I end up having to pry them out.

There are no burrs on the shafts, it even happens with new bits. The nut on the chuck can be unscrewed totally, leaving it to spin loosely between the cutting edge and the chuck itself (NOT with the router on).

Any assistance with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
StuckChuck is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-13-2005, 04:09 PM
Registered User
 
reible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,702
   
Default

Check out this and see if any of the ideas here might work:http://www.routerforums.com/showthread.php?t=630

If this doesn't help let us know and maybe we can get some other posts on something else to try.......

Ed
reible is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-14-2005, 01:30 AM
The Router Guys

 
BobandRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Country: Canada
First Name: Rick
Posts: 767
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by StuckChuck
Hi all;

I have an ELU 3339 router (A Europen version of the DeWalt I believe). The trouble that I have with it is that the router bits become stuck in the chuck. I am at wits end trying to figure out just how to get the bits out. I end up having to pry them out.

There are no burrs on the shafts, it even happens with new bits. The nut on the chuck can be unscrewed totally, leaving it to spin loosely between the cutting edge and the chuck itself (NOT with the router on).

Any assistance with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Can you provide a photo of the chuck and nut?

Rick and Bob
The Router Guys


Well I have just completed my first PDF E-Course, which is 10 embedded lessons from the Router Workshop Video Series. This is a must have PDF that you can get some very good pointers on how to use the router. Get your FREE copy here!

Click here to join the Router Workshop!!
BobandRick is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-14-2005, 01:36 AM
Registered User
 
reible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,702
   
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by StuckChuck
Hi all;

I have an ELU 3339 router (A Europen version of the DeWalt I believe). The trouble that I have with it is that the router bits become stuck in the chuck. I am at wits end trying to figure out just how to get the bits out. I end up having to pry them out.

There are no burrs on the shafts, it even happens with new bits. The nut on the chuck can be unscrewed totally, leaving it to spin loosely between the cutting edge and the chuck itself (NOT with the router on).

Any assistance with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
I had another thought....... I don't know how the euro type routers are, but could it it be that the chuck is a 12 mm and you have 1/2" bits?..... Like I said it is just another thought.......

Ed
reible is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-14-2005, 01:00 PM
The Router Guys

 
BobandRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Country: Canada
First Name: Rick
Posts: 767
 
Default

I think we should take this opportunity to discuss all of the options, like I think this router collet has a spring clip in the cap nut and the procedure is to snap the collet into the cap nut first then tighten it into the collet base. If you seat the collet into the collet base and then tighten the capnut in place you will damage the collet.

Another feature is that this collet tightens the router bits in place easily but has two lock positions and needs to be untightened on the first lock position then hand loosened for about three turns and untighten with the wrench once again. This collet ensures that the router bits will never come loose by accident. I would like to see the collet from different views to see if this is the case.

Is all your router bits sticking in the router or just a few? Just a few then: Some router bit have shafts that are not to spec. This should be checked...big, smaller, rust, bent, oval not round and other non spec issues.

The router bits have not spun within the collet, which will make the collet bigger and not as effective. But we are having trouble loosening the router bit not holding them in, right?

Just my thoughts on the possible problems,

Rick and Bob
The Router Guys


Well I have just completed my first PDF E-Course, which is 10 embedded lessons from the Router Workshop Video Series. This is a must have PDF that you can get some very good pointers on how to use the router. Get your FREE copy here!

Click here to join the Router Workshop!!

Last edited by BobandRick; 02-14-2005 at 01:02 PM.
BobandRick is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-15-2005, 07:45 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3
 
Default

Thanks Guys I have taken some photos of the chuck, but, being a newbie to these forums, I haven't figured out how to attach the jpegs yet. The router is made by black and decker, and sold here in Canada, I bought it about 5 or so years ago. All of my bits stick in the chuck. I have tried keeping the bits up from the bottom of the chuck, I've tried to put the bits to the bottom of the chuck, they always stick. I've tried torquing the bits down excessively as well as too loosely. Something I haven't tried again. I wasn't comfortable in the too loose idea. I even tried lubricating the outside of the collet. In order to get the bits out, I have to use a piece of hardwood, and rap the router bit from below the base plate.
This happens whether or not I use the router in the table or freehand. So I know that it's not dependant on the use of the router.

Hey I just figured out how to attach the jpegs. I have the router as whole, the chuck and collet in and out of the router.

Thanks for all the help so far.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN1180.JPG
Views:	261
Size:	79.5 KB
ID:	486  

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN1183.JPG
Views:	243
Size:	101.5 KB
ID:	487  

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN1184.JPG
Views:	311
Size:	106.0 KB
ID:	488  

StuckChuck is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Registered User
 
reible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,702
   
Default

I have a couple of questions.
1) Has this router always had the problem or has it just started?
2) When you first put a bit in does it go in easy... just slides in?
3) If you put the bit all the way in can you just pull it back out if you have not tightened anything?
4) If you hand tighten the nut then loose does the bit slip back out?
5) When the bit is stuck, if you loosen the nut and tap it out does the bit come out or does the bit and collet? If it is the bit and collet how hard is to get the bit off the collet?
6) In the picture I see something but I'm not sure what it is... see attached?

Ed
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	router.jpg
Views:	235
Size:	12.0 KB
ID:	489  

reible is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-15-2005, 09:20 PM
The Router Guys

 
BobandRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Country: Canada
First Name: Rick
Posts: 767
 
Default

This router has has two lock positions on the collet.

Try this procedure: When taking the router bits out you loosen the collet nut with the wrench until spins freely then turn it approx. 3 turns until it gets tight again. Then use the wrench again to loosen the collet nut a second time. Your router bits should come free after the second time you untighten the collet nut.

Remember the collet needs to be assembled to the collet nut before placing it in the armature shaft.

Rick

Rick and Bob
The Router Guys


Well I have just completed my first PDF E-Course, which is 10 embedded lessons from the Router Workshop Video Series. This is a must have PDF that you can get some very good pointers on how to use the router. Get your FREE copy here!

Click here to join the Router Workshop!!
BobandRick is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-17-2005, 05:21 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3
 
Talking

You guys are correct, there are two locking positions in the collet.

After reading your reply, I tried the loosening and tightening of the bit. To no avail. However, when you said that the collet nut was one with the collet, I noticed that the collet seemed to be sunken (not flush with the top of the nut). I could not hand force the collet flush with the nut. So I chucked the pieces together. By tightening the collet nut, the collet became flush with the top of the nut. I chucked up both half inch as well as quarter inch bits and this has resolved my problem. It is so nice to have the bits that remove without a block of wood and a hammer.

Thanks all to those that replied, this is a great forum!

Stuck Chuck


Quote:
Originally Posted by BobandRick
This router has has two lock positions on the collet.

Try this procedure: When taking the router bits out you loosen the collet nut with the wrench until spins freely then turn it approx. 3 turns until it gets tight again. Then use the wrench again to loosen the collet nut a second time. Your router bits should come free after the second time you untighten the collet nut.

Remember the collet needs to be assembled to the collet nut before placing it in the armature shaft.

Rick
StuckChuck is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-17-2005, 07:04 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2
 
Default

I had the same problem with my Black & Decker router and had to pry the bits out of the collet. It was only when I broke the collet and replaced it with a new one that the problem went away. I suffered through this problem for a lot of years and then found an easy solution by accident. Hope this may help.
Ron
Ron Milton is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rounding off the ends of a stick tpyke Table-mounted Routing 5 03-03-2008 05:14 PM
Magnate Router bits kp91 Tool Reviews 2 07-09-2007 04:36 AM
Quality bits RobertJR General Routing 5 04-19-2006 01:36 AM
Need help deciding on bits. ryan.s General Routing 8 03-25-2005 10:35 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome