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Hi Guys & Gals,

I get eNews from a small company that makes interesting and very helpful tools & widgets. FastCap.com

Here's a new widget that will help stabilize your router and bit when doing flush trimming...

Little Lipper - FastCap - Woodworking Tools

I'm not endorsing it...don't have one...just thought it might be of interest to you all.

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Although I like most FastCap products this one looks scary. It puts your fingers too close to the whirly bits for me. Maybe I'm just a wuss (but I do have all my fingers.)
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I'm surprised they didn't add a guard and shape it more like a handle behind...... wait a minute..... Might have a go at that.
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Other than the obvious, with your fingers too close to the cutter, you're still unsupported for the first couple of inches until the guide gets to the part. After all those years of trimming backsplashes and panel edges, I just use the flush bit in a trimmer - and with the trimmer vertical, I'd think having it horizontal like that is just asking for trouble as you're trying to balance the weight of the trimmer too. If I was going to make a guide, I'd look at the Flush Trim Jig from Woodsmith #94
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Hi Guys & Gals,

I get eNews from a small company that makes interesting and very helpful tools & widgets. FastCap.com

Here's a new widget that will help stabilize your router and bit when doing flush trimming...

Little Lipper - FastCap - Woodworking Tools

I'm not endorsing it...don't have one...just thought it might be of interest to you all.

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I would fear for my fingers way too much to use that...

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Agreed not a safe product. The safest thing to do is orient the work piece so that you hold the router properly in a vertical position.

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Gents,

I forwarded your feedback on to Mr. Akers, he thanks you for your input.

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Agreed not a safe product. The safest thing to do is orient the work piece so that you hold the router properly in a vertical position.
or make something yourself...
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Hi, I am the designer and creator of the Little Lipper. I have been making furniture full time for over 40 years now and have been using variations of the Lipper for around 10 years. The Lipper has been very useful in my work and I always thought it would be a great product which is why I contacted FastCap.

I can see how the Lipper can be perceived to have safety issues but in usage it feels very comfortable to me. The Lipper is 8” long and your hand is a safe distance from the flush cut bit. The force of your hand on the Lipper is directed parallel to the cut and not towards the cutting bit. The combined length of the Lipper and the router gives the user a great deal of leverage and you are also using two hands so you have added control.

I would recommend the Lipper be used with a laminate trimmer since they are smaller and easier to handle, I use a Bosch with a 1/2” bit and usually have that setup as a dedicated router. There are times when the weight of a larger router is helpful but it is usually not needed.

The Little Lipper extremely versatile and will give you a perfectly flush cut on flat, concave and convex surfaces. Other than the cutter depth the trimmer requires no adjustment. The router rotates around the Lipper and once the Lipper is placed on the surface to be trimmed the router is lowered to engage the cut. The cutting depth can be controlled so you don't have to make the full cut in one pass. The added leverage provided by the Lipper is especially useful when you have to cut downhill to prevent chip out when trimming figured woods.

We tried to keep the tool as simple, functional and affordable as possible. We are open to making improvements and welcome your comments. Good luck with your routing projects.

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Or you could simply use a router that was intended to do such a thing, like the Festool mfk700. It makes this job as easy/safe and dust free as possible.
I worked around this problem for years with different methods and varying degrees of success. An offset fence on a router table works well, but only one smaller parts like shelves and it can't do curved pieces at all. Block planes and card scrapers work too, but they are tedious and slow, not a huge issue to a hobbyist but not when you do it for a living.

Lamello also makes a "lipping planer" that does a fine job, but it is a strictly dedicated tool, that's all it does. The mfk700 has vertical base options that make it far more versatile.
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