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Question Newbie choosing between Bosch 1617evs and mrf23evs

So, working on my first set of cabinets and wife is encouraging me to buy a router. I convinced her that a full size router (rather than the Bosch colt which is $100) fits the bill better as I'll need to cut a 3/4" dado as part of the project (among other things) anyway, to make a short story long, I've decided to buy a reconditioned Bosch. I can get the 1617evs for $121 and the mr23 for $139. Mostly I want something that will hold up well because if it fails after 3 years of light use I will be very disappointed. I know th 1617 has a good track record, but the mr23 is a much more expensive tool, which I'm assuming means it's better. There is no router table in my foreseeable future, and I figure I'll upgrade to a plunge base if I need to at a later date. I'm trying to decide which would be easier to use and in the long run be the better choice. Also trying to determine if the mr23 is worth the extra money. Looking for opinions from those with a little more experience.


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Hi, Michael; welcome aboard!
Hey, you picked Bosch, what could go wrong. LOL
Personally I have the 1617EVS...I should have sprung for the EVSPK package but I already had the 1619EVS which is a plunge base and I figured I didn't really need two plunges.
Well the 1617 is a lot lighter and easy to use so now it's the go-to router, hence my wishing I'd bought the plunge base as well.
Do yourself a favour and also buy the Deluxe Router Edge guide (RA1054 )
https://www.amazon.ca/Bosch-RA1054-D...s=bosch+ra1054
That's a Canadian site and pricing...it'll be less expensive in the US
I use my edge guide a LOT.
The 1617 has a through the base adjustment for bit depth (height) so it's a nice feature for table mounted routing, or so the members tell us. I'm still stuck doing handheld work.
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Did I mention that you need the plunge base? Yes, I believe I did.
You need the plunge base as well as the fixed base. Cheaper now than as an afterthought ...voice of experience here.
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So, working on my first set of cabinets and wife is encouraging me to buy a router. I convinced her that a full size router (rather than the Bosch colt which is $100) fits the bill better as I'll need to cut a 3/4" dado as part of the project (among other things) anyway, to make a short story long, I've decided to buy a reconditioned Bosch. I can get the 1617evs for $121 and the mr23 for $139. Mostly I want something that will hold up well because if it fails after 3 years of light use I will be very disappointed. I know th 1617 has a good track record, but the mr23 is a much more expensive tool, which I'm assuming means it's better. There is no router table in my foreseeable future, and I figure I'll upgrade to a plunge base if I need to at a later date. I'm trying to decide which would be easier to use and in the long run be the better choice. Also trying to determine if the mr23 is worth the extra money. Looking for opinions from those with a little more experience.


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Hello Michael and welcome to the forums..
Bosch.... great choice...
as for the 17 over the 23 it's a matter of comfort...
the 17 is lighter and easier to use IMO.....
what ever you do think long range and spring for the EVSPK package... you will not regret it...
like Dan said.. do yourself a favor and also get the Deluxe Router Edge guide (RA1054 )

how about decades of heavy use and no worries...
add the colt at a later date...
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Michael you have a great wife. She is actually recommending you buy a tool. Hmmm! You better hold on to that lady. Pleasedon't let her see this post. It will go straight to her head. I can't add any advice about your question on routers. The above post have said it all.

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Welcome to the forum Michael. I have a pair of 1617 EVSPK, fixed bases mounted in table, plunge for hand-held. The reason the plunge is favored is that plunge base can function like it was fixed and still plunge to start a cut in the middle of a work piece. Fixed base cannot function as a plunge base. I've not used a MR23, so no opinion between the two--but count me as a member of the plunge base club!!

(oh, and if you have to buy a second base later--easier & cheaper to pick up a fixed base in the used market. Still not cheaper than picking up the kit to start with.)

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Welcome to the forum, Michael.

Great choice on the Bosch...listen to what everyone is saying...buy the kit. It will be cheaper in the long run than trying to add the plunge base later. Fixed based routers are a good tools, an additional plunge base makes them a great, and much more versatile, tool.

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It is safe to say the majority of folks here have regretted downgrading initial tool purchases. i.e. buying economy I am not talking about buying junk. I am speaking to your quandary Buying the base model instead of the kit from a quality tool manufacturer. We have all bought "extra's" that are still collecting dust. For me the "D" handle base of my dewalt kit is a good example. It collected dust for 10 years. Till last month when I needed a fixed base for using my dovetail jig. The kit came with 3 bases. Fixed with knob, fixed with "d" handle and plunge The knob handled base has a milescraft plate so I used the D handle for the first time. I really appreciated its value. It handles better in some situations. That base went from regret to appreciation. My point is My lack of knowledge made the "d handle" collect dust not that it was an unnecessary extra.
Finally I think building cabinets without a table is very difficult. DIY tables like the "oak park" can be made cheaply. A kit purchase will allow you to leave one base permanently mounted in your table. So welcome to the forum.
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Thanks for replying, and yes the wife is awesome, though her telling me to buy anything is rare so I'm jumping on this. So what I'm getting is that I should buy the plunge base ��, I will definitely be checking prices on those today. It also sounds like the 17 might be easier to handle than the 23. One thing I found attractive about the 23 was the micro adjustment knob on the housing, is this really a non-issue that I need not be concerned about?
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Thanks for replying, and yes the wife is awesome, though her telling me to buy anything is rare so I'm jumping on this. So what I'm getting is that I should buy the plunge base ��, I will definitely be checking prices on those today. It also sounds like the 17 might be easier to handle than the 23. One thing I found attractive about the 23 was the micro adjustment knob on the housing, is this really a non-issue that I need not be concerned about?
the 17 has micro adjusting...
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