Inlaying irregular pieces of wood offcuts - Router Forums
 8Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-14-2017, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Country: United States
First Name: N/a
Posts: 4
 
Question Inlaying irregular pieces of wood offcuts

Afternoon everyone - I'm trying to embed some really irregular (kidney shaped) pieces of wood into a box. I seem to keep make a right mess of the work. What's the best way to inlay odd shapes? I have the whiteside inlay kit which works really great on some of the templates I've bought. But so far I have been unable to get the same results with these pieces of wood. I tried to make a template by tracing around one of the pieces of wood with the external brass washer. However it seems as though when I cut out the 'indent' the shape doesn't quite match and there are voids. Any help anyone could give me would be great.

thanks
JeffRM is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-14-2017, 09:55 PM
Registered User
 
CharleyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: United States
First Name: Charley
Posts: 1,983
 
Default

Jeff,

Welcome to Router Forums. There is a lot of talent here and at least one of us should be able to help you even more than I can. They will likely respond soon.

If I understand your problem correctly, you can't use these inlay kits if the pattern has any sharp corners. The bit and guide diameters limit how tight a corner that your inlay can have. A rounded pattern like a teddy bear will inlay well because there are no sharp corners. Inlays with sharp corners can be done, but manually using a razor knife and chisels with a lot of practice.

If you can post some pictures of your problem it may help us better understand what you are talking about. (You can only post photos from within your computer until you have posted here a number of times - no URLs, for newbies. It's an anti SPAM thing).

Also, please take the time to fill out your profile (click on "edit Profile" at the top right of your screen. Knowing your name and roughly where you live, what tools you have, and how much woodworking experience you have can make a big difference in how we respond to your questions.

Again, welcome to Router Forums and our sawdust pile.

Charley
harrysin and Roy Drake like this.

Central North Carolina

Last edited by CharleyL; 11-14-2017 at 10:01 PM.
CharleyL is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-14-2017, 10:15 PM
Registered User
 
hawkeye10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Country: United States
First Name: Don
Posts: 2,603
 
Default

Jeff I have done a few inlays and it seems you have to. What Charley said is true and like him we really do need a picture or two.

By the way welcome to the forum. I have learned a lot here and I hope you stick around.

Don in Murfreesboro,Tn.

Measure once cut twice and it's still to short.
hawkeye10 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-14-2017, 10:59 PM
Forum Contributor
 
DesertRatTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Tom
Posts: 15,588
 
Default

Welcome. I think delicate or detailed inlays require hand cutting and fitting using a pattern lightly attached to the inlay material, with a duplicate outline on the workpiece so you can hollow out the total area to be inlayed first, then fitting the carefully hand cut pieces into that opening slightly oversized so you can trim both edges of the overlap for a perfect fit. I won't pretend to have done it, but I've been studying the process for awhile. I have a router plane with a narrow blade that is used to hollow out the shallow recess in the workpiece. It also has a cutter for working the inlay material. I think it is very difficult to use a large router to clear out the recieving recess, I think it's more of a hand process, particularly if the design is delicate or small. Here's a picture of my router plane and the inlay attachment. It's pretty clear how it works. I also included a picture of the Veritas mini router plane (which I don't own). These are all Veritas (Canadian) brand--good stuff. I've mostly used it to clean out dados and grooves, and they give an exact depth, very flat surface. These are really beautiful tools and a joy to use.

The double cutter on the small picture is for cutting things like vines. The cutters (irons) include one only 1/8th wide.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Veritas-miniature-router-plane.jpg
Views:	260
Size:	431.0 KB
ID:	309594  

Attached Images
   
Danman1957 and Roy Drake like this.

The more I do, the less I accomplish.
DesertRatTom is online now  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-15-2017, 03:28 AM
Registered User
 
Badger2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Country: United Kingdom
First Name: Malcolm
Posts: 56
 
Default

I wonder if you have considered using a Dremel for routing small inlays. This video will show you one method.
THis links on to a few more videos that may also help.

Malcolm
harrysin, Danman1957 and Roy Drake like this.

Last edited by Badger2; 11-15-2017 at 03:33 AM.
Badger2 is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-15-2017, 06:39 AM
Moderation Team
 
difalkner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Country: United States
First Name: David
Posts: 2,434
 
Default

Welcome to the forum, Jeff! I do inlays on guitars, boxes, plaques, desk clutter, etc. and use whatever tool fits at the time. Sometimes it's an X-Acto, chisel, Dremel, CNC, and occasionally a trim router. As has been said, post some photos so we can better help you get to your end result.

David
MEBCWD likes this.

David

Curly Wood Shop on Etsy
David Falkner - Woodworking YouTube channel
Our music at church - current videos Airline Baptist BC Facebook Live
Romans 3:23
difalkner is online now  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-15-2017, 08:29 AM
Marine Engineer
 
kp91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Country: United States
First Name: Doug
Posts: 4,493
 
Default

You can post pictures after 10 posts, so comment on a few other threads and then you can share

Doug
1 John 1:9
Fredericksburg, VA




http://disasterreliefeffort.org/
kp91 is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-15-2017, 09:19 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Country: United States
First Name: N/a
Posts: 4
 
Default

Thanks everyone - hopefully this translates OK. I am building my children memory boxes and want to embed/inlay a piece of tree branch from their grandparents house along with inlaying some stones in the lid. Unfortunately I can't add pictures at the moment.

Looking to do something along these lines with the stones





And then using something like these split lengthwise and inlaid into the box lid.



For the stones I decided to try and create a template for each one and then route the hollow for the stone. So far though I keep running into issues with the template. For some reason (mostly my lack of knowledge) the hollow ends up being too large and I have large gaps between the wood and the stone.

Thanks again for all the advice and the warm welcome.

Jeff
JeffRM is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-15-2017, 09:22 AM
Moderation Team
 
Cherryville Chuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Country: Canada
First Name: Charles
Posts: 14,859
 
Default

As long as the photos are in your computer?s hard drive you don?t need 10 posts. If they are on a sharing site or any other reference that requires a link you?ll need those 10 posts first. That also applies to using our private messaging system.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
Cherryville Chuck is online now  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-15-2017, 10:08 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Country: United States
First Name: N/a
Posts: 4
 
Default

I'll apologize in advance if this is a duplicate. I seem to be having posting issues. I'm looking at doing something similar to this



And also inlaying something similar to there (only cut down length wise)



Unfortunately I seem to be making the templates too large and I haven't been able to figure out what to use to create a 'gap free' inlay.

Jeff
JeffRM is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Introduction to Wood Species... BobandRick Wood Species 40 03-19-2015 12:03 PM
I made a few Ornaments for Christmas CharleyL Tools and Woodworking 29 01-26-2015 04:16 PM
Framing a small piece of wood lea6141 Table-mounted Routing 10 08-19-2010 04:01 PM
How to identify wood species: allthunbs Tools and Woodworking 11 12-04-2008 12:28 PM
New Table Top and Wood Rack GoonMan Show N' Tell 9 11-19-2005 11:17 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome