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Yes I had no option but to remove 1.5 inches of material deep while using this straight bit as it's bearing is on the tip and needed to follow my template .
But if I turn the template around and buy the other bit I mentioned , I could take a little out at a time so I believe it will work . Looks like it's back to the store
Yep, the bit got really hot. The problem with trying to take progressive cuts with a pattern bit instead of a flush trim bit is that the shaft mounted bearing probably won't make contact with your template until about the 3rd cut. As mentioned hog out the waste first. This not only reduces the loading but it allows more air getting to the bit which helps keep it cool.

It's very warm here in the north Okanagan too.

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Ok I didn't really think this threw . The guy at Winsor plywood suggested using a guide bushing and a straight bit . Gee you'd think I could have figured that out?
So back to making a new template tonight .
Hating this over 30C weather though as I'm working in the garage . Should do it saturday morning if I wasn't in a hurry

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That was going to be my suggestion....

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That was going to be my suggestion....
Yes it makes way more sense . I'm blaming this on the heat

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James that is definitely the ticket . I'm having major issues while using PC guide bushings on my Festool as it got all jammed up yet again when the collet hit the bushing and basically welded itself in . It would work fine as long as you don't have to use much travel , but in this situation I'm plunging to far .
Spent the rest of the evening getting it apart so tomorrow I'll make a larger jig to accommodate my Festool 24mm guide (the smallest I got in there brand)
Should be a cake walk . The heat is still brutal in my garage lol . Was practically soaked when I got out . How I wish I did this in the morning on the weekend

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Rick set your depth control turret and depth rod so that you can't go down too far. That turret and your depth rod can be an important feature in a lot of plunge routing. For example if you want to make a 3/8 deep groove you can lock the router when the bit is flush on the work and then raise the depth rod and lower it down onto a piece of 3/8 keystock (preferably brass) and lock it and when you plunge it will go down to the desired depth and no more.

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Rick set your depth control turret and depth rod so that you can't go down too far. That turret and your depth rod can be an important feature in a lot of plunge routing. For example if you want to make a 3/8 deep groove you can lock the router when the bit is flush on the work and then raise the depth rod and lower it down onto a piece of 3/8 keystock (preferably brass) and lock it and when you plunge it will go down to the desired depth and no more.
Yes good point . I figured that out after of course . But when I looked at the bigger picture , the bit would not give me very much of a depth with the PC guide as it's to tight inside for the collet , where as the Festool one is much more open .
Great point you made though and it would have saved me hours of frustration as this is the second instance . Man I'm a slow learner lol

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James that is definitely the ticket . I'm having major issues while using PC guide bushings on my Festool as it got all jammed up yet again when the collet hit the bushing and basically welded itself in . It would work fine as long as you don't have to use much travel , but in this situation I'm plunging to far .
Spent the rest of the evening getting it apart so tomorrow I'll make a larger jig to accommodate my Festool 24mm guide (the smallest I got in there brand)
Should be a cake walk . The heat is still brutal in my garage lol . Was practically soaked when I got out . How I wish I did this in the morning on the weekend
Rick, that is why some members are so enthusiastic about using a 40mm guide bush ,

The collet will fit through the Guide bush.

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I don't know what a spiral bit is yet lol . It doesn't work with a jig though does it?
Or do you free hand it and get as close to the edges as possible?


Update: ok I see what a spiral bit is . Have to see what's in town,...not sue if I need the one with a bearing , or does the side of the shaft act as a guide?

In my defence it was probably over a 100 degrees in my garage which wasn't really helping things . Had to go in the house and get a towel to help keep sweat from dripping on my router causing a short
the spiral doesn't have a beiring , the bit is set up using a fence but in your case a guide on the router is needed , for get router and get the rotor zip this may work for you ? and again it may be to small for you , if so than back to your plan, jig saw ? you need this rotor zip

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Rick, that is why some members are so enthusiastic about using a 40mm guide bush ,

The collet will fit through the collet.
Good point! Geez I miss the easiest details I swear . Well I have to maintain my RainMan status somehow lol.

Seriously I always thought bits , but yes of course it would help in my effort collet wise to !!
Got to make a new template this evening in the 100 degree heat

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