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Question Sign making problems

I'm new to the site. So here's my problem. I bought a 4 inch park sign letter making kit from Rockler. I bought the kit along with the 5/8 inch router bit and the 5/8 inch brass bushing that was recommended to go with it. Well at first I had a issue holding the templates still. Finally ended up using carpet double sided tape to hold them solid. But my main issue is the bushings. I have made like 3 or 4 signs. And already ruined two brass bushings. Don't understand what I'm doing wrong. Is there a certain depth to set your router at. I'm using everything that's recommended to go with the letters. At 8 dollars a bushing, can't keep doing this. I really like the signs I have made. I'm really not forcing the router. Kind of keep it steady and let it do it's job. Any help would be appreciated.
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Welcome to the forum. I wouldn't be using a 5/8 bit with a 5/8 bushing. There's no clearance. Try a 1/2 instead.
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Hi, and welcome to our little corner of the 'net.

Like John asked, how are they being ruined? Any chance you can post a picture of the ruined ones?

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The ID of the bushing needs to be larger than the OD of the bit or they will collide and eat the bushing. I would use a 1/2" bit with a 5/8" bushing.

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Welcome to the forum.

You say you are using "the 5/8 inch brass bushing that was recommended to go with it".

That is strange as even Rockler's site says to use a 5/8 cutter and 5/8 guide bushing....

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I cannot believe that Rockler would make that mistake.

I would give Rockler a call.

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Well first off, thanks for the quick response. Well when I meant ruined for the bushings. The part of the bushing that sticks down into the template to guide it. It sticks out like a 1/4 inch. And kind of thin walled. Like the last bushing I used today I got like ten letters out of it before it was chewed up. I guess that makes sense. I would need more clearance. I'll downsize down to 1/2 inch. Would 3/8 inch be better? I went and bought the whole deal for making signs from Rockler. I would figure they would know what I needed. Oh I will be calling on Monday. I ruined two bushings and one letter because of this. I appreciate your help.
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Puzzled by the description of the Rockler bit/guide description. When I looked the bit shown is a 5/8" bowl making type BUT the shank is only 1/4" which will easily fit in a 5/8" guide. Check to make sure there is no foreign matter (grease/dust) that would allow the bit to slide upward when you turn the router on. Also make sure the guide is flat on the wood. If not the shear force might push the bit into the guide. How much space is between the cutterhead and the bottom of the guide? I would also suggest you NOT use the paper backed carpet type tape. The online companies sell tape with a cloth backing that will hold much better. It will not slip like the box store brand of double sided tape. If you don't see it try one of the Wood turning sites. Good luck.......
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Sounds to me like maybe the bushing is not centered in the base plate in relation to the router arbor.

Let us know if you resolve the problem, as this is interesting.
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